The Aussie Thread- Part 2
06-26-05 | 11:34 PM
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Yeah. What a ballzup. I started in B Grade.
I had done the coffee run in the rain with all me mates
the day before, and months of accumulated salt in the helmet was dripping into my eyes during the race like a nice combination of acid and razorblades. Stopped just before the outbound turn to rinse it out and abandoned. Duh: what was I thinking? It was a handicap. All I had to do was wait for A Grade to catch up and hitch a ride with them.
Have no idea what happened after that. Did some experimenting on climbing Blood then went home before they finished.
I had done the coffee run in the rain with all me mates
the day before, and months of accumulated salt in the helmet was dripping into my eyes during the race like a nice combination of acid and razorblades. Stopped just before the outbound turn to rinse it out and abandoned. Duh: what was I thinking? It was a handicap. All I had to do was wait for A Grade to catch up and hitch a ride with them. Have no idea what happened after that. Did some experimenting on climbing Blood then went home before they finished.
06-27-05 | 12:02 AM
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D grade won it, 3 guys blitzed the pack of D's and they beat everyone.
06-27-05 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Discovery Channel 20:30 docu about Lance & the technology behind him....
06-27-05 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
I'm sporting a new USPS Cycling Team wallet. Lots of high tech stuff like velcro, nylon, and 2 small zippers.
06-27-05 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Climbo, you up for an outing to Killingworth on Sunday?
Jock, did anyone race the handicap on Sunday?
Jock, did anyone race the handicap on Sunday?
06-27-05 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jock
It was a list of possibles and probables:
• Scott Sunderland (Alessio-Bianchi) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
• Scott Sunderland (Alessio-Bianchi) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
He'll be there....he's a directeur for CSC.
06-27-05 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ed073
does it have a syringe pocket?
06-27-05 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jock
and months of accumulated salt in the helmet was dripping into my eyes during the race like a nice combination of acid and razorblades.
Could be the reason I missed climo's pedals?
06-27-05 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jock
It was a list of possibles and probables:
Confirmed are:
• Baden Cooke (fdjeux.com)
• Bradley McGee (fdjeux.com)
• Stuart O'Grady (Cofidis)
• Michael Rogers (Quick Step-Davitamon)
• Robbie McEwen (Lotto-Domo)
• Cadel Evans (Lotto-Domo)
• Luke Roberts (CSC)
Still to be confirmed:
• Allan Davis (Liberty Seguros) - PROBABLE
• Matthew White (Cofidis) - PROBABLE
• Matthew Wilson (fdjeux.com) - UNLIKELY
• Matthew Hyman (Ribbon) OUTSIDE CHANCE
Goooone:
• Nick Gates (Lotto-Domo) BUGGER
• Henk Vogels (Lotto-Domo) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
• Scott Sunderland (Alessio-Bianchi) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
Confirmed are:
• Baden Cooke (fdjeux.com)
• Bradley McGee (fdjeux.com)
• Stuart O'Grady (Cofidis)
• Michael Rogers (Quick Step-Davitamon)
• Robbie McEwen (Lotto-Domo)
• Cadel Evans (Lotto-Domo)
• Luke Roberts (CSC)
Still to be confirmed:
• Allan Davis (Liberty Seguros) - PROBABLE
• Matthew White (Cofidis) - PROBABLE
• Matthew Wilson (fdjeux.com) - UNLIKELY
• Matthew Hyman (Ribbon) OUTSIDE CHANCE
Goooone:
• Nick Gates (Lotto-Domo) BUGGER
• Henk Vogels (Lotto-Domo) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
• Scott Sunderland (Alessio-Bianchi) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
Gerrans should be on the team due to legs, but with his neo-pro status they may not risk him, and burn-out considerations, plus the politics of getting enough Frenchies on the squad. That should not be a problem though. Astarloza of AG2r grew up in Sydney too, he is going for sure.
Last edited by thunder; 06-27-05 at 06:53 AM.
06-27-05 | 03:00 AM
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What's all this crap about bikes and racing? Bring back all the idle banter that had the mods watching us all the time when I first logged on.
06-27-05 | 07:02 AM
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Baden Cooke
Bradley McGee
Stuart O'Grady
Matthew White
Michael Rogers
Robbie McEwen
Cadel Evans
Luke Roberts
Allan Davis
Simon Gerrans
Gates out because of team structure, Vogels because his racing calendar does not work out, probably will ride HEW, Paris-Tours, and the Vuelta in preparation for worlds, Wislon out because of nationality politics and havin enough French in Francaise de Jeux. Hayman never on the radar, should move on from Rabobank, will be difficult to move, has been there since he was 20. I like him at Mr. Bookmaker, or Davitamon-Lotto.
changes from last year, Roberts/Gerrans in (White riding) Wilson/Gates out.
Bradley McGee
Stuart O'Grady
Matthew White
Michael Rogers
Robbie McEwen
Cadel Evans
Luke Roberts
Allan Davis
Simon Gerrans
Gates out because of team structure, Vogels because his racing calendar does not work out, probably will ride HEW, Paris-Tours, and the Vuelta in preparation for worlds, Wislon out because of nationality politics and havin enough French in Francaise de Jeux. Hayman never on the radar, should move on from Rabobank, will be difficult to move, has been there since he was 20. I like him at Mr. Bookmaker, or Davitamon-Lotto.
changes from last year, Roberts/Gerrans in (White riding) Wilson/Gates out.
06-27-05 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thunder
What happened to Jay Sweet? 30 this year, he should be winning TDF bunch kicks and coming into his own.
One tour with Big MAt Auber 95, which lost Auber struggled to pay wages and became div 2 Big Mat. I think he had another season after his tour year, then in div 2 proper, assuming Auber were only a dvi 2 like Casino/AG2R. He went to ? Saturn or MBK Oktos then, then finished with Oktos in France I think.
This bloke had speed, won a Tour L'Aviner stage, and some other small Frenchies, beating Kirsipuu in his prime, among others. Blokes he beat like JPN (Nazon) are smoking come tour time.
My questions are, how quick was he? What were his problems? Why is he not on a ProTour team now?
Is it the Quaranta effect, Quaranta quick enough to win Giro stages in his early twenties, does not have the strength now to be a road race sprinter. Might be a good track points/scratch/madison man. Now even when he won Giro stages, they would have been Piano for most of the 150-180 k, with Cipo on the lookout for belle donnas, and marshalling those on the front to slow down. Or did Sweet struggle with the disciplines and cultural barriers so far from Aus, hypothetically speaking if the Protour was ridden in Aus would he be ripping it up?
Corey Sweet is doing well with Comnet Senges in Germnay. I think Credit Agricole gave him short shrift and a dud racing program because he was a Stewie ring-in. He is good enough to win Coup de France races. His brother was good enough to win the seaon Coup de France I think. Kirsipuu never goes over the mountains in the tour, and Sweet was hanging on to the Red Lantern there.
One tour with Big MAt Auber 95, which lost Auber struggled to pay wages and became div 2 Big Mat. I think he had another season after his tour year, then in div 2 proper, assuming Auber were only a dvi 2 like Casino/AG2R. He went to ? Saturn or MBK Oktos then, then finished with Oktos in France I think.
This bloke had speed, won a Tour L'Aviner stage, and some other small Frenchies, beating Kirsipuu in his prime, among others. Blokes he beat like JPN (Nazon) are smoking come tour time.
My questions are, how quick was he? What were his problems? Why is he not on a ProTour team now?
Is it the Quaranta effect, Quaranta quick enough to win Giro stages in his early twenties, does not have the strength now to be a road race sprinter. Might be a good track points/scratch/madison man. Now even when he won Giro stages, they would have been Piano for most of the 150-180 k, with Cipo on the lookout for belle donnas, and marshalling those on the front to slow down. Or did Sweet struggle with the disciplines and cultural barriers so far from Aus, hypothetically speaking if the Protour was ridden in Aus would he be ripping it up?
Corey Sweet is doing well with Comnet Senges in Germnay. I think Credit Agricole gave him short shrift and a dud racing program because he was a Stewie ring-in. He is good enough to win Coup de France races. His brother was good enough to win the seaon Coup de France I think. Kirsipuu never goes over the mountains in the tour, and Sweet was hanging on to the Red Lantern there.
I'm not sure what happened to Jaw Sweet, but I reckon Ed would.
Seems like you know more about him than I do
06-27-05 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ed073
does it have a syringe pocket?
06-27-05 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ed073
He'll be there....he's a directeur for CSC.
Thunder is on the money with Gerrans. He's shortlisted for AG2R Prov
06-27-05 | 03:54 PM
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thunder waltzed in here unannounced, where's the details, where you from thunder? what's the story?
And good for Gerrans, looks like we'll get 10 riders in this year.
How's this friggin rain up here, unreal stuff !!
And good for Gerrans, looks like we'll get 10 riders in this year.
How's this friggin rain up here, unreal stuff !!
06-27-05 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
How's this friggin rain up here, unreal stuff !!
stupid rain.
06-27-05 | 04:10 PM
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You got up at 4 !!!!! You are crazy.
Get used to it for a while, 3 more days of it on the forecast.
Get used to it for a while, 3 more days of it on the forecast.
06-27-05 | 05:02 PM
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Craziness has its virtues.
4am is normal during the week. It's the only time I can find two hours for myself. And I normally ride rain or shine, but this morning it just seemed too much to bear
I feel like crap now, so I reckon a day off is a good thing.
4am is normal during the week. It's the only time I can find two hours for myself. And I normally ride rain or shine, but this morning it just seemed too much to bear
I feel like crap now, so I reckon a day off is a good thing.
06-27-05 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
Baden Cooke, Bradley McGee, Stuart O'Grady, Matthew White, Michael Rogers, Robbie McEwen, Cadel Evans, Luke Roberts, Allan Davis, Simon Gerrans...
changes from last year, Roberts/Gerrans in (White riding) Wilson/Gates out.
changes from last year, Roberts/Gerrans in (White riding) Wilson/Gates out.
06-28-05 | 01:27 AM
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I might be making a crazy road trip to melbourne to pick up a 2nd hand MTB with a mate... failing that, you're welcome to head round to my house for an evening in front of the TV & some beer.. any takers?
09:30 pm DOCUMENTARY - HELL ON WHEELS
The Tour de France, the toughest bicycle race of all, celebrated its 100th birthday in 2003. Year after year this spectacular event fascinates millions of people worldwide. And the winner takes all. Alongside the astonishing beauty of the French landscape and the colourful spectacle of the race, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Pierre Danquart captured the apprehension, torture and fragility of the cyclists vying for honours and survival. Bringing us remarkably close to Erik Zabel and the T-Mobile team, this documentary provides a fascinating inner view of the Tour's organisation, history and fanatical crowds. (From France, in German, French, English, Italian and Spanish, English subtitles) CC
SMS Alert Code: 7161
11:40 pm SPORT - RETRO LE TOUR 2004
Highlights from the 2004 Tour de France.
SMS Alert Code: 7162
01:15 am SPORT - TOUR DE FRANCE 2005 - 2005 TOUR DE FRANCE STAGE 1
Live to all states.
Alert Code: 7163
09:30 pm DOCUMENTARY - HELL ON WHEELS
The Tour de France, the toughest bicycle race of all, celebrated its 100th birthday in 2003. Year after year this spectacular event fascinates millions of people worldwide. And the winner takes all. Alongside the astonishing beauty of the French landscape and the colourful spectacle of the race, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Pierre Danquart captured the apprehension, torture and fragility of the cyclists vying for honours and survival. Bringing us remarkably close to Erik Zabel and the T-Mobile team, this documentary provides a fascinating inner view of the Tour's organisation, history and fanatical crowds. (From France, in German, French, English, Italian and Spanish, English subtitles) CC
SMS Alert Code: 7161
11:40 pm SPORT - RETRO LE TOUR 2004
Highlights from the 2004 Tour de France.
SMS Alert Code: 7162
01:15 am SPORT - TOUR DE FRANCE 2005 - 2005 TOUR DE FRANCE STAGE 1
Live to all states.
Alert Code: 7163
06-28-05 | 01:35 AM
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Gees, I'm racing Sunday morning.
06-28-05 | 02:19 AM
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I had my first race on the weekend. Well it was an adventure race with a mtb component anyway. After 15 years of faithful service on my old Trek 920, my rear derailleur fell apart probably 10 km into the 25 km ride (after most of the downhill sections of course). Of all the times to happen. We came in 113 out of 150. Even most of the chicks beat us. Not an auspicious start to my racing career.
06-28-05 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by badsac
I had my first race on the weekend. Well it was an adventure race with a mtb component anyway. After 15 years of faithful service on my old Trek 920, my rear derailleur fell apart probably 10 km into the 25 km ride (after most of the downhill sections of course). Of all the times to happen. We came in 113 out of 150. Even most of the chicks beat us. Not an auspicious start to my racing career.
No place to go but up. My placing in BMX racing seems dependent on who crashes after passing me.
06-28-05 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by badsac
I had my first race on the weekend. Well it was an adventure race with a mtb component anyway. After 15 years of faithful service on my old Trek 920, my rear derailleur fell apart probably 10 km into the 25 km ride (after most of the downhill sections of course). Of all the times to happen. We came in 113 out of 150. Even most of the chicks beat us. Not an auspicious start to my racing career.
06-28-05 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
No place to go but up. My placing in BMX racing seems dependent on who crashes after passing me.
You won a race yet?
Originally Posted by berny
Woodford to Glenbrook?
Thylo will be happy to know that I wore his shirt and got some admiring comments on it.