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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 02-14-10 | 06:50 PM
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if you want cycling advice you should go to a cycling forum. this isnt one.
This isnt a cycleogy forum?
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Why do you guys correlate me being new here with my age or experience on the bike and my knowledge base? I have been riding for many years although I am young and put in thousands of miles per year but don't obsess about mileage. I focus on effort, speed and fitness. I know first hand that your Cervelo is and always be more comfortable than any Scott. It is the nature of the engineering. The RS or the TCR and Synapse would be better back ups to your S2 IMO.

I know, you're a shill for pcad, trying to get this thread to twenty pages, right?

If not, are you familiar with the phrase "beating a dead horse"?
Not for nothing, but is this a cycling forum to discuss and debate cycling related things or as I am learning, it is just a forum to stroke some poster's egos and general histrionics. I am getting criticized personally for giving my opinion about certain component groups and frames on a cycling site? Go figure. That is why I guess post counts get up to 30000 because it is more like high school than a cycling forum.

You don't reach numbers like that I guess just talking about products and frames. I get it, but I am not going to lay down when some "veteran" of the board tries to marginalize me when I may or may not have more knowledge about certain topics or may be a stronger rider.
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Not for nothing, but is this a cycling forum to discuss and debate cycling related things or as I am learning, it is just a forum to stroke some poster's egos and general histrionics. I am getting criticized personally for giving my opinion about certain component groups and frames on a cycling site? Go figure. That is why I guess post counts get up to 30000 because it is more like high school than a cycling forum.

You don't reach numbers like that I guess just talking about products and frames. I get it, but I am not going to lay down when some "veteran" of the board tries to marginalize me when I may or may not have more knowledge about certain topics or may be a stronger rider.
again... is it really that important? its the internet.
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again... is it really that important? its the internet.
Funny how you disregard the whole first half of my post which I pose legitimate questions about the dynamics here yet you focus on what you interpret as insecurity on my part. I don't take it serious at all.
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Originally Posted by slothlike
or as I am learning, it is just a forum to stroke some poster's egos and general histrionics. I am getting criticized personally for giving my opinion about certain component groups and frames on a cycling site? Go figure. That is why I guess post counts get up to 30000 because it is more like high school than a cycling forum.
Hey, maybe slothlike does get it.
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People here don't get it.
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Old 02-14-10 | 07:16 PM
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don't know much about bauhaus, do you?
Hooked! I'm so smart. S-M-RT.

I knew you would be the only one to respond, and, probably take offense. And no, I don't. But that wasn't the point. Hee-hee-hee...

I DO like the 7800C tho.
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Old 02-14-10 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Hey, maybe slothlike does get it.
Stop confusing things with facts, that wont get us anywhere.
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Not for nothing, but is this a cycling forum to discuss and debate cycling related things or as I am learning, it is just a forum to stroke some poseur's egos and general histrionics. I am getting criticized personally for giving my opinion about certain component groups and frames on a cycling site? Go figure. That is why I guess post counts get up to 30000 because it is more like high school than a cycling forum.

You don't reach numbers like that I guess just talking about products and frames. I get it, but I am not going to lay down when some "veteran" of the board tries to marginalize me when I may or may not have more knowledge about certain topics or may be a stronger rider.
Fixed it for ya. BTW, pcad had a histronectomy several years ago.
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Originally Posted by MUZE

Not for nothing, but is this a cycling forum to discuss and debate cycling related things or as I am learning, it is just a forum to stroke some poster's egos and general histrionics. I am getting criticized personally for giving my opinion about certain component groups and frames on a cycling site? Go figure. That is why I guess post counts get up to 30000 because it is more like high school than a cycling forum.

You don't reach numbers like that I guess just talking about products and frames. I get it, but I am not going to lay down when some "veteran" of the board tries to marginalize me when I may or may not have more knowledge about certain topics or may be a stronger rider.
Just because you've read some reviews that condemn the Addict as too stiff does not mean that's how anyone who buys/rides one will experience the bike. Every rider is different, and I do like stiff bicycles. Again, I can show you many positive reviews for every negative citation you proffer. Your arrogance is in your puzzling need to assert your correctness. That also tells me you're an idiot kid. You'll learn. The hard way.

We all do.

Bible thumpers like yourself marginalize themselves. You don't need any outside help with that.
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Old 02-14-10 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MUZE
"I know, you're a shill for pcad, trying to get this thread to twenty pages, right?"

Silly me. Even I, having only been visiting BF a short time, should realize that pcad doesn't need the help.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Correct.
Why is he correct?
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Why is he correct?
You're only proving my point.
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Just because you've read some reviews that condemn the Addict as too stiff does not mean that's how anyone who buys/rides one will experience the bike. Every rider is different, and I do like stiff bicycles. Again, I can show you many positive reviews for every negative citation you proffer. Your arrogance is in your puzzling need to assert your correctness. That also tells me you're an idiot kid. You'll learn. The hard way.

We all do.

Bible thumpers like yourself marginalize themselves. You don't need any outside help with that.
I am not saying it isn't a nice bike or have its benefits, but Scotts are unforgiving. Ride it and make up your mind as you will, but to have had an aluminum C'dale and go to a carbon frame and say "holy crap" that is harsh, is telling.

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Hey, maybe slothlike does get it.
Oh, I got it. Pretty simple to figure this place out.
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Originally Posted by slothlike

I am not saying it isn't a nice bike or have its benefits, but Scotts are unforgiving. Ride it and make up your mind as you will, but to have had an aluminum C'dale and go to a carbon frame and say "holy crap" that is harsh, is telling.
It was not an all aluminum Cdale. It was a Six13. Sounds like you don't even know that a Six13 is. On the other hand I will agree with you that the alu rear triangle on the Six13 is more compliant than the CF triangle on the Addict. That's more a testament to the alu engineering wizardry @ Cannondale than anything else. The Cannondale aluminum frame I rode in the 90's was far harsher than the Addict. And you know what? I liked that bike.

As I keep saying and you finally acknowledge, only time and experience with this bike will tell. Listen, when you have a day like I had today, when you're that deep in the hurt locker for over an hour, when you're pushed to your limit the first time on your new bike, none of what I experienced is surprising, the sore back, the disenchantment with the bike, etc. I would have been unhappy with any bike today. It wasn't about the bike. It never really is. I've been doing this for a long time. I've been dropped enough, I've had good days, bad days, etc. You keep going back and you get stronger. That's how it works. I take it all with a major grain of salt.

I'm rolling out @ 6:45 AM for a nice, easy, little ring 20 mile recovery spin. How much you want to bet that I LOVE the bike by tomorrow @ 9AM?

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It wasn't about the bike. It never really is.
All that being said, here on BF, it is often about the bike, and that's what we're all here for, so carry on.
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I am not saying it isn't a nice bike or have its benefits, but Scotts are unforgiving. Ride it and make up your mind as you will, but to have had an aluminum C'dale and go to a carbon frame and say "holy crap" that is harsh, is telling.
You tell 'em!
Giants are the best for weight, comfort AND stiffness, hands down.
Someday they'll all realize this.
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I am not saying it isn't a nice bike or have its benefits, but Scotts are unforgiving. Ride it and make up you mind as you will, but to have had an aluminum C'dale and go to a carbon frame and say "holy crap" that is harsh, is telling.
I have a Parlee and an Addict, and did have a Scott CR1 SL. Scotts aren't "unforgiving". And the Addict is not "harsh". It is fast and responsive though.

I'm quite old, and would not like something harsh. A harsh ride would be, well, just harsh.
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You tell 'em!
Giants are the best for weight, comfort AND stiffness, hands down.
Someday they'll all realize this.
PCad will rue the day he tries doing 100+ miles in a day on his addict.
He'll be in bed for a week.
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PCad will rue the day he tries doing 100+ miles in a day on his addict.
He'll be in bed for a week.
Don't worry exaulted leader of the Road Forum, I'm doing what I can to get this up to 20 pages for you.
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Don't feel bad. I've been saying a recumbent would be the ticket for him for years. He's got the graying hair, there are many photos of him with a beard and/or sandals. He has an engineering related profession, and he's the right age. Still no dice.

Don't insult us engineers by lumping Pcad in with us....he is a art major or some nonsense. He draws pictures.
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PCad will rue the day he tries doing 100+ miles in a day on his addict.
He'll be in bed for a week.
I often rue the day after the first 100 mile training ride of the late spring/early summer (about the first time of year I get enough daylight to do those rides) and it doesn't seem to matter which bike I'm on.
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He draws pictures.
With a purpose.
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That's more a testament to the alu engineering wizardry @ Cannondale than anything else.
right on!!




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you know what? I liked that bike.
As well you should, it was a Cannondale!!



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