Logic on an internet board? Now you're just being silly.

LOL,
Are you serious? I need to worry about some internet site hierarchy. I didn't even address him initially, he insulted me first. I don't care who he is if that is the case.
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looking forward to getting your drivers license next year?

Lacking intelligence is something nobody ever accused me of but so be it. If that makes you feel better, but I assure you that you will be dumping that Scott due to harsh ride. Stick with the S2.

Walking is overated.

Only an idiot would take anything on BF seriously

Whats up botto? normally you dont even notice the newbs, you are wasting alot of energy here with all the typing.

Don't worry, I get it. I am bustin chops but I can see there are a few here that "need" to feel a sense of superiority by trying to put me in my newbie place. I get it, but my original intent was to discuss Pcad's Scott and as I posted over 2 weeks ago, I warned him of how stiff they are. And I truly feel Sram is a better choice than the new Shimano offerings. This is the "forum" to have these debates, but apparnetly there are a few here that don't like to be questioned. Pcad's bad back ain't gonna improve with that Scott no matter what wheels or seatpost you use. Scotts are "right up you ass stiff".

I am sticking with the S2.

The way I look at it, even if I wind up dumping the Scott, that's chump change compared to buying the wrong car. I've done that too : ).

But all that remains to be seen. Tough day on the bike today, I got shelled five miles from the end of Nyack, windy day, small group (maybe 12 guys when I got ejected) and I've lost quite a bit of fitness as a result of sucking down Vicodin for three weeks with this recent oral surgery complication clusterfark. I only stopped the pain pills Friday, so now it's back to the fitness drawing board.

Plenty of Addict owners (I know a few locally) love the bike. These are guys I know and respect who actually ride and race bicycles, not internet kids with their heads up their ass and opinions formed from on-line reviews. First race is in three weeks. I have no illusions about contending in these races, I just want enough fitness to hang on and maybe help the team.

Didn't have the Zipps today. When I came off it was a classic case of how those 404s might have saved me just enough watts in the windy conditions to keep me in contact. It often really does come down to a few more watts for a few seconds some times. You have them you stay on, you don't and you're out the back door. I needed 50-100 watts more for 20-30 seconds today, just didn't have it. Tough day all day today, I was in the Pcad Hurt Locker, got spit out 5 miles from the end.

Oh well. That's the only way to get back in shape. Suffer.

Oh I get it, Botto must be the cool older guy around here.
LOL

Do you?

Am I the only guy who hates Valentine's Day?

Smiley fail.

bought the wrong gift again?

did the leaf blower not go down too well with the mrs?

Yeah, but they may not have chronic back issues. They also may not have a frame of reference as you do with the Cervelo. Like I said a couple of weeks ago, Giant TCRs for example are stiff in BB but offer more comfort than Scotts. A lot of the lighter CF frames are built super stiff to compensate for less material to build strength in the frame. I don't expect you to listen to me, but just because you don't like me doesn't make me wrong.

And what does the Cervelo weigh in at?

I'm on page 32. Impressive.

Not at all. Normally Botto replys in one word sentances. Incorrect, seams to be his favorite word. I was curious about what it was that got him to drop his monk like persona. I meant nothing towards you.

What is to hate, a great day to spend some time with your wife and some good loving.

Did riding all those miles cause some side effects?

Don't feel bad. I've been saying a recumbent would be the ticket for him for years. He's got the graying hair, there are many photos of him with a beard and/or sandals. He has an engineering related profession, and he's the right age. Still no dice.

It's not a question about hierarchy - it's a question of who knows what their talking about, and who doesn't. When you take on someone who has a great deal of knowledge, it's easy to look like a fool. I'm sure you think you're really on top of things, but take it from me (and all the others who are telling you basically the same thing), you are looking like just another kid who wants to impress people with how much you know, on the internet, regardless of your he said, she said excuse. Botto has earned his respect here, by having a unique pool of knowledge (btw - if you really want to know about the Bauhaus movement, he's the guy to ask.). You're well on your way to earning an utter lack of it, no matter your groupset preference.

BTW - which groupset do you like, again? I forgot. And I'm dying to know.

As new as you are here, it's certainly not too late to turn it around, but the time to quit acting like you own the joint is now.

The back pain I experienced on my S2 and on the Addict today is unrelated to my other chronic back issues, I can tell the difference.

I don't dislike you, you just come across as an Internet Genius who doesn't have a lot of real world experience. Will my experience align with the guys who I know who love the bike and all the positive reviews I've read or with the negative ones you have read? In the end I test rode this bike for 20 minutes before and loved it, and rode it for < 2 hours today and liked it less. Like I said, it takes me a MONTH to make a decision about a bike, so I learned long ago that superficial test rides are pointless. You buy the bike and you take your chances. For every negative review you can link me to, I can link you to three positive ones, plus I know several locals who ride the bike and swear by it.

So tell me slothy, do you even own an actual road bike and do you actually ride it in the real world?. How many road miles have you logged in the past five years? Just asking since I've rolled up SIXTY THOUSAND of them, so I figure I do have some actual EXPERIENCE with this bike crap. You know on the roads and in the races we're all on BF to share about in first place.

If ever you thought that the whole BF Idiotfest was running out of steam, guys like Slothy tell us the BF Dream will never die.

Agreed, moving forward to twenty pages.......

Just in case you do end up hating it, what size is that Addict, Pcad? I'm betting it's too small for me, but it never hurts to ask...