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Old 02-17-10 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lectron
Thor Hushovd is enjoying he's 648g Cervelo frame.

You enjoy your boat anchor Pcad?

Hushovd: How light is this??
Vroomen: 648g
All of the morons who really think that no-name Taiwanese frames are identical to bikes from companies from Cervelo, Specialized, Scott and Cannondale should watch that video. The big boys spend millions on engineering, testing and development with the assistance of the top pro teams in Europe that they sponsor. THEN, after that lengthy and expensive process, they find a factory in Taiwan to build the bike to their exacting specifications. After all that, it's then up to the other little guys to TRY and reverse engineer and mimic the performance and fabrication of those high tech new frames.

Good luck with that.

THAT is what you're paying for. Not just marketing. Engineering, R&D, innovation. Why does everybody love their Cervelo? Because they're great friggin bikes. And nothing demonstrates what it takes to engineer a great friggin bike quite as succinctly as that video. The Cervelo Carbon Soloist went through something like a dozen prototypes that pro riders in Europe tested before they developed the one that became the bike that I'm riding now and that took one 'best product of the year' title after another from readers of major cycling publications throughout the world. I have really never met a rider who, when I asked him if he liked his Carbon Soloist, didn't respond 'I love it'. I've asked dozens of riders that question, I always get the same response. Ditto for the other Cervelo models.

I would argue the company's remarkable success as a manufacturer of high end road bikes (and that's all they make, no MTBs, cruisers, commuters, etc. ) has more to do with making a product that consumers and dealers love than coffee shop poseur appeal. And if their bikes have the latter, so what? Whatever sells bikes.

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Old 02-17-10 | 05:53 AM
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Have I pointed out that 95% of you are total idiots yet today? Maybe not, it's only 6:53AM EST.
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In the meantime, while you all slept, post # 500 approaches. And I think this thread is just getting started. I wonder how this compares to my Zipp clincher thread in post count? Let's bump that one and see.
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Old 02-17-10 | 05:57 AM
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Have I pointed out that 95% of you are total idiots yet today? Maybe not, it's only 6:53AM EST.

go back to bed. you are delirious.

what should i have for lunch? i can still taste the garlic on my breath from last night.
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Old 02-17-10 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by coasting
go back to bed. you are delirious.

what should i have for lunch? i can still taste the garlic on my breath from last night.
I'm in bed coasting. I start blogging here before I even have my coffee.
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Old 02-17-10 | 06:05 AM
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that is an image i now how to block out for the rest of the day. thanks.
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Old 02-17-10 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I'm in bed coasting. I start blogging here before I even have my coffee.
Correct

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Old 02-17-10 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
All of the morons who really think that no-name Taiwanese frames are identical to bikes from companies from Cervelo, Specialized, Scott and Cannondale should watch that video.
Oh....deep down they know. Oh yes. They know. And they're not gonna watch the vid. They like to keep it there....Deep down
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Have I pointed out that 95% of you are total idiots yet today? Maybe not, it's only 6:53AM EST.


Hey, I'm smarter than your front tire! and, I don't care what brand you ride..............
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Old 02-17-10 | 01:38 PM
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F the bad roads. That D.A. rear wheel came in and I couldn't resist. I mounted it up to see how the bike would ride with the new wheels.

Problem solved. The CF in those rims really does take the edge off that Addict frame stiffness. Today's ride had long climbs, nasty chip/seal potholed roads, the works. The Scott was FINE. I liked it. It's a half pound lighter with those DA CF/alu wheels. I had the Contis jacked up to 120 lbs as always. Not a problem.
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Old 02-17-10 | 01:47 PM
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Problem solved. The CF in those rims really does take the edge off that Addict frame stiffness.
Are you positive? Because if not I'm sure your idiot noob stalker can recommend you some sram/red wheels to take care of the problem.
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So now you're on the payroll of both Cervelo AND Scott...It's a brilliant way to earn a few extra bucks doing something that you'll be wasting time at anyway.

This is not criticism, if I had the 'following' that you did around here and the tragic number of posts that you have, I'd call these companies asking for free schwag too. It's the only way I can imagine why you'd felt the need for another high end bike that basically fits the same catagory of the one you bought just a year ago.... Reason? A phone call to Scott to point out all the free advertisement that you've given to Cervelo lately and they dropped a contract and bike in the mail for you.

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So now you're on the payroll of both Cervelo AND Scott...It's a brilliant way to earn a few extra bucks doing something that you'll be wasting time at anyway.

This is not criticism, if I had the 'following' that you did around here and the tragic number of posts that you have, I'd call these companies asking for free schwag too. It's the only way I can imagine why you'd felt the need for another high end bike that basically fits the same catagory of the one you bought just a year ago.... Reason? A phone call to Scott to point out all the free advertisement that you've given to Cervelo lately and they dropped a contract and bike in the mail for you.

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Jeremy's spoken.

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Originally Posted by patentcad
F the bad roads. That D.A. rear wheel came in and I couldn't resist. I mounted it up to see how the bike would ride with the new wheels.

Problem solved. The CF in those rims really does take the edge off that Addict frame stiffness. Today's ride had long climbs, nasty chip/seal potholed roads, the works. The Scott was FINE. I liked it. It's a half pound lighter with those DA CF/alu wheels. I had the Contis jacked up to 120 lbs as always. Not a problem.

I read a long thread on this site and they were suggesting that 120 PSI is to high?
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:25 PM
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The CF in those rims really does take the edge off that Addict frame stiffness.
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:25 PM
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I read a long thread on this site and they were suggesting that 120 PSI is to high?
Oh no, now they tell me. I've been riding 120 psi clinchers for over 100,000 miles. F me.
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y
Don't be effing with my self delusion Fredly, it's all I have left.
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:27 PM
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This stupid thread might make post # 500 after all.
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120 PSI is to high as 70 PSI is to low.
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:29 PM
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and grumpy's prize is?

a new set of dura ace wheels, ridden only once.
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Old 02-17-10 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
All of the morons who really think that no-name Taiwanese frames are identical to bikes from companies from Cervelo, Specialized, Scott and Cannondale should watch that video. The big boys spend millions on engineering, testing and development with the assistance of the top pro teams in Europe that they sponsor. THEN, after that lengthy and expensive process, they find a factory in Taiwan to build the bike to their exacting specifications. After all that, it's then up to the other little guys to TRY and reverse engineer and mimic the performance and fabrication of those high tech new frames.

Good luck with that.

THAT is what you're paying for. Not just marketing. Engineering, R&D, innovation. Why does everybody love their Cervelo? Because they're great friggin bikes. And nothing demonstrates what it takes to engineer a great friggin bike quite as succinctly as that video. The Cervelo Carbon Soloist went through something like a dozen prototypes that pro riders in Europe tested before they developed the one that became the bike that I'm riding now and that took one 'best product of the year' title after another from readers of major cycling publications throughout the world. I have really never met a rider who, when I asked him if he liked his Carbon Soloist, didn't respond 'I love it'. I've asked dozens of riders that question, I always get the same response. Ditto for the other Cervelo models.

I would argue the company's remarkable success as a manufacturer of high end road bikes (and that's all they make, no MTBs, cruisers, commuters, etc. ) has more to do with making a product that consumers and dealers love than coffee shop poseur appeal. And if their bikes have the latter, so what? Whatever sells bikes.
When Volkswagen(with their former quality product engineering)moved production to Mexico years back and their quality and sales plummeted 60%.Third World production will always produce Third World products.
It's all about the bottom line$$$$ in sales.Child labor prices are hard to beatThose rolling billboards are not superior to anything else made in Taiwan at a much lower price.Prove me wrong.
But stay tuned Cervelo fans.
Heard they are moving the water bottle cage screw production to Canada.
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The pics I see don't have any nes wheels in them!!!
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