Addiction I
02-21-10 | 07:51 AM
#726
Senior Member
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From: TC, MN
Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo
Man I don't know where your reading abilities are but there sure weren't here tonight. I rode the Madone because a friend of mine wanted me to test ride it, so I did, I didn't want to buy it but also I didn't want it and I wasn't thrilled enough to be swooned. And I also said it's your money you can spend it anyway you see necessary to fill the hole in your life...ok, I didn't say it that way you can reread it to get the exact rendering, but essentially that's the deal. And part of that hole in your life is thinking that if someone doesn't have a bike or car or house or whatever as good as what you have then they must be poor miserable souls and maybe someday they can rise to your level. I can tell from reading your post I don't want to be anywhere near your level! For me to spend $6,000 for a bike that I could never make it go the way Lance does is not a wise expenditure of money when a steel or even a less expensive bike that weighs the same as the Madone would be a better purchase. Personally I have a gripe against CF bicycles but that's a debate that has raged wars here and I'm not going to enter into that. I have other investments that I pour my money into and a bike is not an investment in the true sense of the word which is the use of money for future profit...and a Madone is not that.
Appreciating and purchasing high quality goods =/= filling a hole is one's life. It may, but it's no certainty. If you think otherwise, it says more about you than anything else.
...and I find it funny that your post, monastic from the start, ends with a comment that a true investment must include monetary returns. Wow.
02-21-10 | 09:09 AM
#727
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Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
Pcad, nice day for a ride though you may still run into some wet spots.
02-21-10 | 09:13 AM
#728
stole your bike
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,907
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From: North Bergen, NJ
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Ridley Compact
I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!
Oh the retro-grouch defense. Perhaps we should find someone from the generation before yours who would say the same about the products and music you like.
Man, this post is just riddled with insecurity and projection.
Appreciating and purchasing high quality goods =/= filling a hole is one's life. It may, but it's no certainty. If you think otherwise, it says more about you than anything else.
...and I find it funny that your post, monastic from the start, ends with a comment that a true investment must include monetary returns. Wow.
Appreciating and purchasing high quality goods =/= filling a hole is one's life. It may, but it's no certainty. If you think otherwise, it says more about you than anything else.
...and I find it funny that your post, monastic from the start, ends with a comment that a true investment must include monetary returns. Wow.
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02-21-10 | 09:15 AM
#729
gmt
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Binghamton, NY
I don't like Led Zeppelin (or any rock for that matter).
I don't consider myself a throwback.
I don't consider myself a throwback.
02-21-10 | 09:21 AM
#730
stole your bike
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,907
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From: North Bergen, NJ
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Ridley Compact
02-21-10 | 09:22 AM
#731
Portland Fred
Joined: Oct 2005
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Bikes: Custom Winter, Challenge Seiran SL, Fuji Team Pro, Cattrike Road/Velokit, РOS hybrid
For me to spend $6,000 for a bike that I could never make it go the way Lance does is not a wise expenditure of money when a steel or even a less expensive bike that weighs the same as the Madone would be a better purchase.... I have other investments that I pour my money into and a bike is not an investment in the true sense of the word which is the use of money for future profit...and a Madone is not that.
02-21-10 | 09:37 AM
#732
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT
02-21-10 | 09:59 AM
#733
Lost
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,627
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From: nutley, nj
I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!
now excuse me, i'm off to the outhouse.
02-21-10 | 10:18 AM
#734
Banned.
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I don't begrudge anyone their gear. If you can afford it, go for it. I own 3 high end carbon bikes and 2 ti. I don't have a gym membership, never did. Riding is my gym, hobby, salvation. Whatever. I understand Pcad's excitement about his new bike, but man is he such an attention *****. I get it!!! This doesn't make him a bad person as it is all in good fun, but when he puts himself out there, he should expect reaction like some. In fact, you don't need to be Columbo to figure out he enjoys the negative as it keeps his threads going. I commented on his Scott not out of jealousy (ie. 5 bikes), but more out of experience with back issues and Scott's notoriously harsh ride.
This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school. Makes it more humorous so I don't know why some of you guys feign anger about negative reactions to Pcad's insanity when it is the exact dynamic he wishes to cultivate and you guys enjoy witnessing. It is one big hot F$#$#$#$ mess if you ask me.
This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school. Makes it more humorous so I don't know why some of you guys feign anger about negative reactions to Pcad's insanity when it is the exact dynamic he wishes to cultivate and you guys enjoy witnessing. It is one big hot F$#$#$#$ mess if you ask me.
02-21-10 | 10:21 AM
#735
gmt
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 12,509
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From: Binghamton, NY
I don't begrudge anyone their gear. If you can afford it, go for it. I own 3 high end carbon bikes and 2 ti. I don't have a gym membership, never did. Riding is my gym, hobby, salvation. Whatever. I understand Pcad's excitement about his new bike, but man is he such an attention *****. I get it!!! This doesn't make him a bad person as it is all in good fun, but when he puts himself out there, he should expect reaction like some. In fact, you don't need to be Columbo to figure out he enjoys the negative as it keeps his threads going. I commented on his Scott not out of jealousy (ie. 5 bikes), but more out of experience with back issues and Scott's notoriously harsh ride.
This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school. Makes it more humorous so I don't know why some of you guys feign anger about negative reactions to Pcad's insanity when it is the exact dynamic he wishes to cultivate and you guys enjoy witnessing. It is one big hot F$#$#$#$ mess if you ask me.
This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school. Makes it more humorous so I don't know why some of you guys feign anger about negative reactions to Pcad's insanity when it is the exact dynamic he wishes to cultivate and you guys enjoy witnessing. It is one big hot F$#$#$#$ mess if you ask me.
02-21-10 | 10:21 AM
#736
Sua Ku
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,705
Likes: 2
From: Hot as hell, Singapore
Bikes: Trek 5200, BMC SLC01, BMC SSX, Specialized FSR, Holdsworth Criterium
I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!
(30 pages, I felt the need to get involved in this Seinfeld thread)
02-21-10 | 10:26 AM
#737
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Because I indulge you guys. It is what you need to perpetuate these ridiculous threads. Notice how your response is typical of someone that cannnot deny the argument I presented. Cuz you know I hit the nail on the head. Why else would a mid level bike with mid shelf components get this much attention. He'd get 3 responses on weightweenies.
02-21-10 | 10:29 AM
#738
gmt
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 12,509
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From: Binghamton, NY
I'd take twelve pcads over one self-important humorless whiner any day.
02-21-10 | 10:31 AM
#739
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Lets not hijack this thread, I suggest that the dog start his own thread about how old is better than new.
As far as investments I won't let my wife throw out my old IBM XT, some day it might be worth a lot of money. I still think my 2007 Mac is better, even though it is "new".
I know that I like my CF bike and it is a healthy addictions.
As far as investments I won't let my wife throw out my old IBM XT, some day it might be worth a lot of money. I still think my 2007 Mac is better, even though it is "new".
I know that I like my CF bike and it is a healthy addictions.
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02-21-10 | 10:34 AM
#740
Sua Ku
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,705
Likes: 2
From: Hot as hell, Singapore
Bikes: Trek 5200, BMC SLC01, BMC SSX, Specialized FSR, Holdsworth Criterium
02-21-10 | 10:39 AM
#742
gmt
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 12,509
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From: Binghamton, NY
I don't deny you the right to say what you say.
I am opposed to your insistence that your opinions somehow carry more weight than anyone else's.
And no, it doesn't hurt.
I am opposed to your insistence that your opinions somehow carry more weight than anyone else's.
And no, it doesn't hurt.
02-21-10 | 10:45 AM
#743
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No, this is the way you interpret it maybe. But I am not wrong about the dynamics on this forum. Nothing wrong with it, but when people respond to threads like this as I do, don't bust my ba!!s, it is what is expected by the Legend in his own mind, Pcad.
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02-21-10 | 10:51 AM
#744
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Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
02-21-10 | 11:17 AM
#746
Portland Fred
Joined: Oct 2005
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Bikes: Custom Winter, Challenge Seiran SL, Fuji Team Pro, Cattrike Road/Velokit, РOS hybrid
A lot of what passes for tech talk is really guys taking things/themselves way too seriously. Their conversations are really no different than ones held between wannabe gearheads who endlessly debate what automotive snake oil and exhaust modifications will get you more speed.
02-21-10 | 11:40 AM
#747
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Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
They take it to whole new level tuning bike cages and the like.
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...hp?f=3&t=69572
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...hp?f=3&t=69572
02-21-10 | 12:22 PM
#748
VFL For Life
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 54,148
Likes: 2,429
From: Knoxville, TN
Bikes: Velo Volmobile
02-21-10 | 12:29 PM
#749
VFL For Life
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 54,148
Likes: 2,429
From: Knoxville, TN
Bikes: Velo Volmobile
Suck on that.
02-21-10 | 12:35 PM
#750
he said member
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