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Old 05-03-11 | 09:06 PM
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I've been doing awesome this week and keeping my goal of 20 miles/day. I skipped one day but I also did 27 miles one day so I should be able to make it up tomorrow.

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I know, not awesome. But that's my fastest average so far. My goal is 20 miles in an hour. I feel like i should be able to hit that in the next month. Realistic?

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And to think we can now fit an Atari, Super Nintendo, Genesis, Nintendo, and every game ever made for all of those systems onto a device (phone) 1/20 of the size of one of those consoles.
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The pope got me laughing this morning so I must have had NYC on the mind. You are slipping with these news reports VV. Don't let the success of your thread distract you too much

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Old 05-04-11 | 07:18 AM
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He is flexible in places you are not or your seat troubles would be greatly lessened.
You're all over the place with this. At first I wasn't strong/flexible enough. Then after you received some working knowledge of my physique and athletic history you said I was TOO strong with TOO much muscle memory. Then after some comments about the unnatural form of a professional cyclist, and after I stated that my FIT problems have dissipated, I was suddenly too inflexible again.

I'd love to continue the internet diagnoses about problems which no longer exist, but at least try to maintain some consistency.

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Old 05-04-11 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by twobadfish
You're all over the place with this. At first I wasn't strong/flexible enough. Then after you received some working knowledge of my physique and athletic history you said I was TOO strong with TOO much muscle memory. Then after some comments about the unnatural form of a professional cyclist, and after I stated that my FIT problems have dissipated, I was suddenly too inflexible again.

I'd love to continue the internet diagnoses about problems which no longer exist, but at least try to maintain some consistency.

Sincerely,

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Just cut your steerer as short as possible, get somewhere around a 5-6" saddle to bar drop, and HTFU and use it. Flexibility, and all that crap is crap. Just keep riding and you'll get used to it, and you'll be faster. This is possibly the worst advise you will ever get, but it's my advise.
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Old 05-04-11 | 07:37 AM
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Just cut your steerer as short as possible, get somewhere around a 5-6" saddle to bar drop, and HTFU and use it. Flexibility, and all that crap is crap. Just keep riding and you'll get used to it, and you'll be faster. This is possibly the worst advise you will ever get, but it's my advise.
Haha thanks. I worked out most of the problems I was having. I'm just working on average speed right now.
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You are slipping with these news reports VV.
Since you are now a gamer you will be happy to learn that Wii pricing will soon fall to $149.99.
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Old 05-04-11 | 08:01 AM
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I have lost 11lbs since I started cycling. These last 10 are going to be really tough.
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I have lost 11lbs since I started cycling. These last 10 are going to be really tough.
Congratulations!
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Just cut your steerer as short as possible, get somewhere around a 5-6" saddle to bar drop, and HTFU and use it. Flexibility, and all that crap is crap. Just keep riding and you'll get used to it, and you'll be faster. This is possibly the worst advise you will ever get, but it's my advise.
as long as we agree.
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It's worked for me.
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Originally Posted by twobadfish
You're all over the place with this. At first I wasn't strong/flexible enough. Then after you received some working knowledge of my physique and athletic history you said I was TOO strong with TOO much muscle memory. Then after some comments about the unnatural form of a professional cyclist, and after I stated that my FIT problems have dissipated, I was suddenly too inflexible again.

I'd love to continue the internet diagnoses about problems which no longer exist, but at least try to maintain some consistency.

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Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin
Just cut your steerer as short as possible, get somewhere around a 5-6" saddle to bar drop, and HTFU and use it. Flexibility, and all that crap is crap. Just keep riding and you'll get used to it, and you'll be faster. This is possibly the worst advise you will ever get, but it's my advise.
You - I'm too fat for this sport but wait......I am conditioned to the water where carrying weight in the form of fat actually helps. OOOOOh my starfish is all rough and dried out and I'm falling over trying to use my swimmers muscles. WHY do people with sport specific training act and look so different from what I am?

Me- You are too fat for this sport.....You are still too fat for this sport but sound like you ride as if you are laying on your stomach flopping back toward something wet (I'm sure you can dig up the bike photo you posted that wholly supports this)...Now then since we finally found out your saddle is not fit for use, get a new one try going for an even more upright position till you heal and then do what SA described and HTFU.



Life can be so funny. It just seems that as soon as you change one thing another goes slightly out of wack. Not to mention if someone comes along and tries to explain some of the principles behind why fixing a certain thing works. Since you are practically getting it from both ends they adopt a tolerant attitude toward what would obviously frustrate anyone till they can keep the ball in the air by them self. After some growing pains they start to see some improvement and go enjoy their newly comfortable ability to actually do it!!!!

Back they come, "How dare the rules that apply to a beginner not apply in the least to a consummate pro? I'm still uncomfortable with all of this and maybe I am jumping into this faster than my skills are improving. Maybe I should slow down and temper my own experiences with the help that is being freely given by some folks who seemingly do little else than this sport."
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Cyclist education still lacking in some quarters. From local e-mail group:

Hi,

I'm looking for any legal help or information for my friend. His name is KW.

He was leaving ORNL on his bicycle and he was hit by a car that turned right and ran a stop sign.

He was leaving the lab on Bethel Valley road.

He crossed the traffic at the ORNL Bethel Valley gate and he was riding on the shoulder of the road against traffic for about 50 feet before turning left off the main road onto a secondary road.

The driver sitting on the secondary road, facing Bethel Valley road and talking on a cell phone. The driver was not moving or looking so K proceeded to cross to turn left.

The driver suddenly pulled up without looking or only looked left? The driver ran over my co-worker throwing him aside and totaling his bike. The ambulance was called etc.. K was ok.

The Oak Ridge police came out and they said it was his fault because he was on the shoulder facing traffic ??? It is unclear whether they wrote a ticket or report.

I believe in Tennessee both bikes and pedestrians are allowed to be on the shoulder of a road.. I think there are rules for cars at stop signs, and I believe when cars have a stop sign they are supposed to

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2.) look both ways.

If anyone has any ideas of who my co-worker may contact regarding legal action to have the driver to replace his bike please let him know.

I'm also cc-ing external communications at ORNL and the Oak Ridge Newspaper.

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Cyclist education still lacking in some quarters. From local e-mail group:
Earlier this week I saw a guy riding the wrong way down a bike lane (against traffic), no helmet, talking on his cell phone, after dark, with no light. Some people just lack any sort of common sense.
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You - I'm too fat for this sport but wait......I am conditioned to the water where carrying weight in the form of fat actually helps. OOOOOh my starfish is all rough and dried out and I'm falling over trying to use my swimmers muscles. WHY do people with sport specific training act and look so different from what I am?
1. Fat doesn't make you a faster swimmer. This might be one of the most absurd claims I've ever heard.

2. I wasn't commenting on the cyclists physique in wonder, awe, or confusion. It was a genuine and succinct analysis of what must be sacrificed (physique) - compared to a multi-sport athlete - to be a professional cyclist.

3. You initially stated that I wasn't flexible enough. Then I was too strong and had developed muscle memory. Then I wasn't flexible enough again. Your sage wisdom and advice is not only confusing, but inconsistent.

Me- You are too fat for this sport.....You are still too fat for this sport but sound like you ride as if you are laying on your stomach flopping back toward something wet (I'm sure you can dig up the bike photo you posted that wholly supports this)...Now then since we finally found out your saddle is not fit for use, get a new one try going for an even more upright position till you heal and then do what SA described and HTFU.
You keep describing a non-issue. I am not having fit issues any longer and have since gotten a new saddle - thanks to a lot of help from these forums, my LBS, and Sheldon Brown's site. I'm not sure what my weight has to do with issues I was having with my fit. I'm sure I can find a dozen other riders 20%+ heavier than me with none of my issues which have been resolved.


Back they come, "How dare the rules that apply to a beginner not apply in the least to a consummate pro? I'm still uncomfortable with all of this and maybe I am jumping into this faster than my skills are improving. Maybe I should slow down and temper my own experiences with the help that is being freely given by some folks who seemingly do little else than this sport."
Aside from your advice - as well-intended it may have been - I've gotten a vast majority of my working knowledge of cycling from these forums - of which I'm grateful for. I appreciate your advice, but it is simply too inconsistent and presumptuous to consider as anything more than unfair criticism.

Yes, I'm too fat to be a professional cyclist. I am not however too fat to comfortably ride on a bicycle.

P.S. - I run far more than I swim. Maybe that that will help add some material to your clever jabs.

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Originally Posted by Quel
Earlier this week I saw a guy riding the wrong way down a bike lane (against traffic), no helmet, talking on his cell phone, after dark, with no light. Some people just lack any sort of common sense.
Wow, he's covering all the bases!

My best was a kid riding freewheel bmx with no brakes wrong way down a sidewalk in an area I like to call "The Gauntlet". It's so ridden with fast food joints and other businesses that the sidewalk is more driveway than sidewalk.

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You're all over the place with this. At first I wasn't strong/flexible enough. Then after you received some working knowledge of my physique and athletic history you said I was TOO strong with TOO much muscle memory. Then after some comments about the unnatural form of a professional cyclist, and after I stated that my FIT problems have dissipated, I was suddenly too inflexible again.

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Originally Posted by twobadfish
1. Fat doesn't make you a faster swimmer. This might be one of the most absurd claims I've ever heard.

2. I wasn't commenting on the cyclists physique in wonder, awe, or confusion. It was a genuine and succinct analysis of what must be sacrificed (physique) - compared to a multi-sport athlete - to be a professional cyclist.

3. You initially stated that I wasn't flexible enough. Then I was too strong and had developed muscle memory. Then I wasn't flexible enough again. Your sage wisdom and advice is not only confusing, but inconsistent.



You keep describing a non-issue. I am not having fit issues any longer and have since gotten a new saddle - thanks to a lot of help from these forums, my LBS, and Sheldon Brown's site. I'm not sure what my weight has to do with issues I was having with my fit. I'm sure I can find a dozen other riders 20%+ heavier than me with none of my issues which have been resolved.




Aside from your advice - as well-intended it may have been - I've gotten a vast majority of my working knowledge of cycling from these forums - of which I'm grateful for. I appreciate your advice, but it is simply too inconsistent and presumptuous to consider as anything more than unfair criticism.

Yes, I'm too fat to be a professional cyclist. I am not however too fat to comfortably ride on a bicycle.

P.S. - I run far more than I swim. Maybe that that will help add some material to your clever jabs.
Okey Dokey!! I forgot to tell you, to complete my diagnosis I need you to try touching your elbows behind your back.
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