Herbie53

I like it when VG talks strict terms.

2manybikes

Just saw an add on TV for a new Fiat... crud.........It looks identical to the ones I saw here in the 1970s. They were junk.

datlas 

I vote for double secret probation.

datlas 

Ugh, I am annoyed with Shimano customer service.

My 6700 shifter/brake lever innards are rusting...they said just put some chain lube in there and it will be fine.

I think not.

Herbie53

rjones28 

The Ford Festiva I drove in college got that kind of mileage and it was only $5,000 new.

Velo Gator

No overpricedPrius for you.

rjones28 

I gave that car away when I was finished with it. If I remember correctly, I put around 200,000 miles on that thing.

BillyD

Did you have to fix or repair it daily?

rjones28 

Tires, brakes, and regular oil changes. It never broke.

It was actually a Mazda-designed Kia-built Ford product.

sbxx1985 

I have no idea what the price is, but it sounds tempting.

His 50mm clinchers were pretty impressive. They were actually nicer than I thought they'd be. Not mine, but I took a photo.

sbxx1985 

LAJ has some serious hand wringing ahead. I enjoy some good quality hand wringing.

truckstop

Boo. Hiss.

When the Abarth is available in the US, Mr. TS and I are going to have several arguments about the fate of the Meat Wagon.

truckstop

Chances are still pretty good I wont get one though. Our next four (six?) wheel vehicle purchase is probably going to be an RV.

patentcad

My Lexus actually had an MSRP of $32,112. You can easily buy a Prius that's pricier than that. Hell, my wife's Prius IV was 30,800 MSRP (approx) and it's not a top of the line car. You can load up the Prius and get the car over $35K. I think if you put every silly option on my car you can get it over $40K, but the dealer told me that 90% of the cars he gets are at the price mine sold for, and they are selling like hotcakes @ that price level.

patentcad

Every thread comes down to a discussion about cars. People care about cars. Nobody cares about cycling.

v70cat

That is because we all care about the engine

dgasmd

I guess I will never understand why people say Prius are overpriced. I guess if you get it for the mileage, then what is the point to load it with tons of crap making it a bad expensive purchase? I got a Prius about a year ago. I have been consistently getting 52-55 MPG in town and about 48 MPG on hwy driving at about 72-75 MPH. I paid $21,500 for it new. There is no other car at that price range in the market that comes even close to it in size or mileage. A luxury car with bells and whittles it is not, nor is it a speed demon, but those are not the reasons why I got it in the first place. That is not how the car is designed in the first place.

And for those that say the mileage doesn't pay, here is some simple math. 17,000 miles to date at 50 MPG average = 340 gal at $3.50/gal = $1,190. Compare that to the Land Rover I had before that: 17,000 miles at 15 MPG average = 1133 gal at $3.50/gal = $3,996. You draw your own conclusions!

NathanC

Prius and a LR is hardly a fair comparison.

mvnsnd

That's great. RV's can be a lot of fun. We don't enjoy ours as often as we should.

DropDeadFred

is 80g worth the difference in aero benefit from the firecrest 404 which is said to be as aero as the previous 808. I only interject because I myself am coveting some 404's that i might get for a steal

patentcad

We're very happy with our Prius/Lexus combo. Jury is out on snow performance, we'll have to see how both cars do with full sets of Blizzak WS-70 tires, but I'm not that concerned. Those Blizzaks have morphed every other awful-in-the-snow car I've ever owned into a Virtual 4x4, and we live on the hill that makes you prove that (Mt. Doom). Trust me on this latter point. 18% grades coming up here that are sometimes unplowed and a sheet of friggin ice until our plow guy and the salt has a chance to clear it out and soften it up. We like the Prius so much we're actually considering leasing another (we need a third car). But we do need to throw snow tires on the Prius and see how it does on the first snowfall coming up this hill first.

DropDeadFred

https://youtu.be/Wp2sqrfGSPI

patentcad

Cars with the right Blizzak tires won't do that. Those WS-70's are like Snow Spiderman Sticky Feet for your car on snow and ice. You have to drive them to believe them. I've had a couple of pairs (along with a couple of other brands of winter tire). The Blizzaks don't have quite the tread life or performance of some other winter tires, but they are by far the stickiest you can buy, and that's what we'll get for the Lexus and the Prius in the next month or so.

People are utterly clueless about two aspects of car ownership: mpg's and winter tires. Anyone who says to me 'I have 'all season' tires' is telegraphing their cluelessness to the world. There is NO such thing as 'All Season' in tires. There are winter tires, and there are non-winter tires. Living up here, you want winter tires on your car if it's not a 4 x 4. Four of them.

DropDeadFred

we get one, maybe two snow storms a year here south of Atlanta, earlier this year we had the "blizzard" in which all of GA was shut down for a week. 4 million people and 10 snow plows for all of Atlanta. My car doesn't move when it snows and neither do I.