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Old 01-05-05 | 11:22 PM
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serious question here! (we recommend that the following may be to graphic for our younger viewers!)....lol....anyway....I have got a serious question. I've ridden 'Look' pedals since forever.....long time readers will know that I changed over to the new 'Keo's' in October.....but I can't seem to get comfortable with the cleats. love the pedals, but can't seem to find a comfortable cleat position. Cos they are a different design to the traditional 'Look' cleats, I thought, I 'd just start with the cleat in the middle of the shoe & work my way from there....went forward, went back, went left, went right. Had 'em loose, had 'em tight, plenty arc & no arc, but they still hurt my feet....help! (its not the shoes cos this didn't happen before)...c'mon folks, what can I try now?...give me the benefit of your wisdom

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Old 01-05-05 | 11:28 PM
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when you say "hurt your feet"....describe the pain, location etc.

did you do the old Liquid Paper around the outline of the old cleat on your shoes before swapping?
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Old 01-05-05 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
Oi,

serious question here! (we recommend that the following may be to graphic for our younger viewers!)....lol....anyway....I have got a serious question. I've ridden 'Look' pedals since forever.....long time readers will know that I changed over to the new 'Keo's' in October.....but I can't seem to get comfortable with the cleats. love the pedals, but can't seem to find a comfortable cleat position. Cos they are a different design to the traditional 'Look' cleats, I thought, I 'd just start with the cleat in the middle of the shoe & work my way from there....went forward, went back, went left, went right. Had 'em loose, had 'em tight, plenty arc & no arc, but they still hurt my feet....help! (its not the shoes cos this didn't happen before)...c'mon folks, what can I try now?...give me the benefit of your wisdom

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why not stay with the 'look' pedals if they were ok for so long?, 'if it aint broke dont fix' Im on shimano pedals and shoes and are fine {may be to cheeeep for you?}

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Old 01-06-05 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
Very sneaky.....deleting a post prior to mine so as to make me fall one short.

(Gets onto bike and leaves the scene......with the shift into 53-11 he is gone! [warp drive sound effects])
Uh, you were already short by one. Brings your math skills into question 52-12?. Anyway, since you had the decency to leave straight off, I may cut you a bit of slack in the future.
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Old 01-06-05 | 01:03 AM
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Uh, you were already short by one. Brings your math skills into question 52-12?. Anyway, since you had the decency to leave straight off, I may cut you a bit of slack in the future.
52-12?........wait a minute let me go count the teeth on my smallest rear cog again.

1,1,2,3,4,5,5,6,7,8,9,10,11........see it's an 11T just like I told you. And who said I couldn't count?
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Old 01-06-05 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
52-12?........wait a minute let me go count the teeth on my smallest rear cog again.

1,1,2,3,4,5,5,6,7,8,9,10,11........see it's an 11T just like I told you. And who said I couldn't count?
Why do you want to shoot Michael Schumacher?
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:33 AM
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Schuey donated US$10 very big ones. Heck, Johnny Howard tossed way more than that into the hat, and he makes nowhere near Schumacher's salary.
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:44 AM
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Yeah. Latham would have just gone over and kicked everyone's a$$, starting with the cabbies.
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Old 01-06-05 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
c'mon folks, what can I try now?...give me the benefit of your wisdom

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If you've got a wind trainer then you should use it to get the alignment sorted. Here's how i managed to sort out my cleats:

Start by wearing what you normally wear: sox, nicks, whatever
Make sure your bike is level. Chock up the front wheel with wood, books, whatever
Loosen you cleat on one shoe, then nip it up so it can be moved with your foot, but will hold its place.
Warm up for about 10 mins, concentrating on your pedalling action. Smooth and elegant, don't stamp.
Go up a cog and increase the pressure slightly, making sure you remain smooth and symetrical.
Watch your knee alignment against the top tube. No kicking (outward) or knocking (inward) allowed.
When you are comfortable stop pedalling with the loose cleat foot down.
Carefully reach down and release you foot from the shoe without moving it from your comfy position.
Release the shoe very carefully using a large flatblade screwdriver to open the pedal (or whatever).
Tighten the cleat, then jump straight back onto the bike for another 10 mins to see if you're happy.

Repeat as required, then do the other hoof.
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Old 01-06-05 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ed073
when you say "hurt your feet"....describe the pain, location etc.

did you do the old Liquid Paper around the outline of the old cleat on your shoes before swapping?

outside of foot, just behind the ball......the tracing of the old cleat is irrelevant because the new design is a different size all together....I'm dumb, but not that dumb!

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Old 01-06-05 | 05:55 AM
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Oi 531

whats this worth?

https://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....gename=rvi:1:1

I could be interested if the price is right

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Old 01-06-05 | 06:32 AM
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A cleats a cleat. It's psycho insomniactic. Just get on the fooker and ride.

Rode around Mt Panorama backwards today. Fark me. That would have to be close to the hardest thing I've voluntarily done in my life. Much farkin steeper than the right way around. But man, is the corner off Mt Straight farkin awesome to take doing 80 with the bike cranked right over. Geez, the Mt's a great bike track.

Just got banned from one of the other forums I frequent instead of doing work for getting in a pathetic blue for saying Goughie throws pies, then talking dirty to the female mod (I lurve mature wimin) that came around to clean the mess up. Never been banned from anywhere before. My productivity at work will go way up now.
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Old 01-06-05 | 02:43 PM
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A cleats a cleat. It's psycho insomniactic. Just get on the fooker and ride.
What the hell is psycho insomniactic? I put it in to a coupla dictionaries and got no match. One suggested inseminator. Is that close?
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Old 01-06-05 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
outside of foot, just behind the ball......the tracing of the old cleat is irrelevant because the new design is a different size all together....I'm dumb, but not that dumb!

Hitchy
That's a weight distribution thing. Are your new cleats smaller or narrower? You might have to upgrade your shoes to a very stiff sole version so that your weight can be distibuted over a larger area of your foot. Try some $450 carbon fibre jobbies. If they don't help I'll buy them off you for $20
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
outside of foot, just behind the ball......the tracing of the old cleat is irrelevant because the new design is a different size all together....I'm dumb, but not that dumb!

Hitchy
so....I'm picturing pain just near the little point on the most outside part of the foot? Is it a throbbing pain? Knife-like? How long into a ride before it starts up? Every ride, or just when you give it some welly?

I had a similar deal years ago and changed shoes from Look (narrow-ish) to Time (broader) and it went away immediately.
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:28 PM
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What the hell is psycho insomniactic? I put it in to a coupla dictionaries and got no match. One suggested inseminator. Is that close?
I think he meant psychosomatic.
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:42 PM
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No no - psycho insomniactic is where you can't get to sleep and it drives you crazy

What badsac meant was psycho orthotic which is where your shoes drive you crazy
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Originally Posted by 62vette
No no - psycho insomniactic is where you can't get to sleep and it drives you crazy

What badsac meant was psycho orthotic which is where your shoes drive you crazy
What about psychorokocoko, where massive All Black wingers drive you crazy?
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No no - psycho insomniactic is where you can't get to sleep and it drives you crazy

What badsac meant was psycho orthotic which is where your shoes drive you crazy
Quick Shirl, grab the Mortein. There's a Kiwi in the lounge room!
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Old 01-06-05 | 03:58 PM
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Right now NZ cricket is suffering from psychometacarpal, caused by twiddling ones thumbs with no-one to play against after the Sri Lankans went home (fair enough too, they needed to) and the Indians turned down an invite to tour.

Looks like the Aussies will arrive fresh from hammering Pakistan and proceed to maul the Black Caps in March
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Oh, and if you're offering something in a can, I would prefer a VB to Mortein.
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Right now NZ cricket is suffering from psychometacarpal, caused by twiddling ones thumbs with no-one to play against after the Sri Lankans went home (fair enough too, they needed to) and the Indians turned down an invite to tour.

Looks like the Aussies will arrive fresh from hammering Pakistan and proceed to maul the Black Caps in March
I read that NZCA is trying to organise a patched up tour by a 'world XI' or similar so they don't lose to much gate. A couple of the Aussies have been asked the question.
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Hmm world XI in no particular order...
Dravid, Ponting, Lara, Martyn, Sehwag, Kallis, Gilchrist (wicketkeeper), McGrath, Murali, Pollock, Harmison (token brit).
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Hmm world XI in no particular order...
Dravid, Ponting, Lara, Martyn, Sehwag, Kallis, Gilchrist (wicketkeeper), McGrath, Murali, Pollock, Harmison (token brit).
Shouldn't there be some decent bowlers and batsmen in there? They need cricket practice, not just drinking practice after the match
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Oh, and if you're offering something in a can, I would prefer a VB to Mortein.
yech, no taste in beer AND cant play cricket, so what is good in NZ these days?
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