The Aussie Thread- Part 4
#7151
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Originally Posted by matagi
Yeah, but it's an extension of the same thing - and who cares anyway? The guy has retired, he was never caught, so why are people still going on about it? Like he's the only cyclist in the history of cycling to use performance enhancing substances and not be caught?
Maybe he is as clean as a whistle, and maybe he is not, but in the absence of hard evidence to indicate he used performance enhancing substances, it is all becoming a little tedious. (and no, I am not a Lance fan by any means)
Maybe he is as clean as a whistle, and maybe he is not, but in the absence of hard evidence to indicate he used performance enhancing substances, it is all becoming a little tedious. (and no, I am not a Lance fan by any means)
#7152
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Originally Posted by jock
We were riding along nicely as a well oiled bunch, with those that wanted to work putting in plenty of time in the house of discomfort. And some dickhead was riding along with our pack, not entered in the race, but making an awful nuisance of himself. I wanted to jam my pump in his front wheel, but I was sure that a 2.5" CO2 cartridge probably wouldn't cut the mustard. 

#7153
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ungh.....my head......stupid party people that won't get the hell out of my house at 2am when the party started at 3pm. Damn them. Damn pilsner. Damn.....everything. *grumble*
Okay, need some advise fellas. 10 weeks before the Melb 12hr enduro, which I stupidly signed a team up for. Have basically zero fitness and almost as much motivation.
What's a quick easy-ish training scheme to guarantee I won't die?
Was just planning on ramping up the road kms in the first month and try and do 1-2hrs a day during the week, and a longer ride on the weekends, then in the second month add some intervals and time on the mtb so I can relearn how to steer.
whaddayareckon?
Okay, need some advise fellas. 10 weeks before the Melb 12hr enduro, which I stupidly signed a team up for. Have basically zero fitness and almost as much motivation.
What's a quick easy-ish training scheme to guarantee I won't die?
Was just planning on ramping up the road kms in the first month and try and do 1-2hrs a day during the week, and a longer ride on the weekends, then in the second month add some intervals and time on the mtb so I can relearn how to steer.
whaddayareckon?
#7154
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Where's the enduro?
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#7157
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Okay, need some advise fellas. 10 weeks before the Melb 12hr enduro, which I stupidly signed a team up for. Have basically zero fitness and almost as much motivation.
What's a quick easy-ish training scheme to guarantee I won't die?
Was just planning on ramping up the road kms in the first month and try and do 1-2hrs a day during the week, and a longer ride on the weekends, then in the second month add some intervals and time on the mtb so I can relearn how to steer.
whaddayareckon?
What's a quick easy-ish training scheme to guarantee I won't die?
Was just planning on ramping up the road kms in the first month and try and do 1-2hrs a day during the week, and a longer ride on the weekends, then in the second month add some intervals and time on the mtb so I can relearn how to steer.
whaddayareckon?
With zero motivation, you haven't got a chance - you really need to get that sorted before you start training 'coz otherwise you will keep finding excuses for not training and before you know it, the big day will have arrived and you will be no better prepared than you are today.
Don't you just love us optimistic, encouraging types?
#7158
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Thylo, you might as well forget about the intervals and just get some miles into those legs. The intervals will only make you want to stay off the bike. They're not really necessary for enduro style events anyway where the emphasis is on tempo.
4 man team? That means three hours on the bike which is about 90 kays in road miles and (I think) about 60 kays of up and down hill MTB crud. You could do that with no training at all but you probably wouldn't walk for about a week afterwards
So there you have it. Start with an hour a day (28-30 kays of easy, flat road miles) then GRADUALLY increase the weekend mileage to four hours of flat/undulating stuff per day and put in some hills during the shorter rides during the week. On the hilly stuff you don't need to bust a valve, just concentrate on tempo. If you are worried about strength then climb seated (or alternate between seated and standing each repeat).
And make sure you take Monday and Friday off. You'll need mucho recovery time so your body can regenrate the stuff you'll be breaking as you increase the load.
Have fun
PS. Did I mention that you should increase the time and the effort GRADUALLY?
4 man team? That means three hours on the bike which is about 90 kays in road miles and (I think) about 60 kays of up and down hill MTB crud. You could do that with no training at all but you probably wouldn't walk for about a week afterwards
So there you have it. Start with an hour a day (28-30 kays of easy, flat road miles) then GRADUALLY increase the weekend mileage to four hours of flat/undulating stuff per day and put in some hills during the shorter rides during the week. On the hilly stuff you don't need to bust a valve, just concentrate on tempo. If you are worried about strength then climb seated (or alternate between seated and standing each repeat).
And make sure you take Monday and Friday off. You'll need mucho recovery time so your body can regenrate the stuff you'll be breaking as you increase the load.
Have fun

PS. Did I mention that you should increase the time and the effort GRADUALLY?
#7159
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Jocko, I think I had your race on Saturday, dead last in a handicap race. I was the only starter on 2 minutes and when scratch caught me about 15 minutes in, I could only hang on for about 5 minutes. That made me last on the road from that point 
Perhaps the borrowed bike (about 1 size too small, probably 4cm shorter in reach) had something to do with it, but I think I just had a **** day. It felt like I was towing a parachute the whole way round.
This morning's ride felt better. After changing up when I wanted to change down more times than I can count I will probably get the campy gear changing sussed just in time for it to bugger me up going back to Shimano on the new bike

Perhaps the borrowed bike (about 1 size too small, probably 4cm shorter in reach) had something to do with it, but I think I just had a **** day. It felt like I was towing a parachute the whole way round.
This morning's ride felt better. After changing up when I wanted to change down more times than I can count I will probably get the campy gear changing sussed just in time for it to bugger me up going back to Shimano on the new bike
#7160
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Didn't a couple of you lot mention some kiwi-fruit jam recipes a while ago?
I did a search of TAT but couldn't find anything.
We got a big box of the stuff on Friday and wanted to make some luverly jam.
I did a search of TAT but couldn't find anything.
We got a big box of the stuff on Friday and wanted to make some luverly jam.
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Bad luck vette. Starting out on your own sucks. If you don't feel strong it can often work out better if you just sit on the line waiting for the next group to roll out so you have someone to share the workload with. Either that or just roll out easy (which is the better thing to do on our road course as it is up hill most of the way out to the turnaround)
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Originally Posted by matagi
I reckon you should fake a serious illness the day before the event.
With zero motivation, you haven't got a chance - you really need to get that sorted before you start training 'coz otherwise you will keep finding excuses for not training and before you know it, the big day will have arrived and you will be no better prepared than you are today.
Don't you just love us optimistic, encouraging types?
With zero motivation, you haven't got a chance - you really need to get that sorted before you start training 'coz otherwise you will keep finding excuses for not training and before you know it, the big day will have arrived and you will be no better prepared than you are today.
Don't you just love us optimistic, encouraging types?


The other two guys will be doing most of the work (they're much more of the 'racing type' than me anyway) - I'll probably only do a couple of laps so I can spend the rest of the time hoiking my wares.....I just don't want to let the side completely down by squandering the few weeks I have!
Okay, so I'll just slowly up the mileage. Sounds like a simple plan.
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Thylo's Weekly Workout: Week 1
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Mon - zen and contemplation
Tue - 45mins flat and easy
Wed - 1hr flat and easy
Thu - 1 hr little undulations easy
Fri - massage & sauna at the local Rub 'n' Tug
Sat - 2hr road easy, no nasty hills: enjoy the scenery/company
Sun - 2hr MTB easy, nothing technical, no nasty hills: find your rhythm
What I would give to get a program like that every week
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Mon - zen and contemplation
Tue - 45mins flat and easy
Wed - 1hr flat and easy
Thu - 1 hr little undulations easy
Fri - massage & sauna at the local Rub 'n' Tug
Sat - 2hr road easy, no nasty hills: enjoy the scenery/company
Sun - 2hr MTB easy, nothing technical, no nasty hills: find your rhythm
What I would give to get a program like that every week
#7164
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Friday sounds good
#7165
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Originally Posted by Odin
Didn't a couple of you lot mention some kiwi-fruit jam recipes a while ago?
I did a search of TAT but couldn't find anything.
We got a big box of the stuff on Friday and wanted to make some luverly jam.
I did a search of TAT but couldn't find anything.
We got a big box of the stuff on Friday and wanted to make some luverly jam.
Just had a couple of hours on the local mtb trails...what a nice way to see out the weekend.
Mum and bub are visiting friends in sydney so I'm enjoying a cold coopers and watching sport
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Mum and bub are visiting friends in sydney so I'm enjoying a cold coopers and watching sport 

#7167
Australia TV broadcaster is organising a special Tour de France ride through Sydney on Friday, June 30, at 7am. The meeting point will be Café Latteria (320 Victoria St. Darlinghurst), for a stroll through the CBD out to The Rocks, flanked by SBS vehicles all the way. The first 25 participants to gather will receive a branded Nike jersey, whereas the first 25 riders back at Café Latteria after the ride (about 7.45am) will get a free breakfast.
#7168
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Thylo, your acerbic wit is required - https://www.bikeforums.net/professional-cycling-fans/206051-why-i-will-never-buy-lemond-bicycle.html
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Originally Posted by climbo
Australia TV broadcaster is organising a special Tour de France ride through Sydney on Friday, June 30, at 7am. The meeting point will be Café Latteria (320 Victoria St. Darlinghurst), for a stroll through the CBD out to The Rocks, flanked by SBS vehicles all the way. The first 25 participants to gather will receive a branded Nike jersey, whereas the first 25 riders back at Café Latteria after the ride (about 7.45am) will get a free breakfast.
All you can eat=53x11 all the way!
#7170
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Guys, I've just bought myself a set of Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL's on eBay. Just started reading some reviews...Not sure now if I did the right thing as a lot of people say they have issues with breaking spokes on the drive side.
Any thoughts??
Any thoughts??
#7171
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Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Guys, I've just bought myself a set of Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL's on eBay. Just started reading some reviews...Not sure now if I did the right thing as a lot of people say they have issues with breaking spokes on the drive side.
Any thoughts??
Any thoughts??
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Ouch!!
Wattsy, not heard of any spoke failures from any of the tools I know that ride 'em. LBS tool rates them higher than Durace wheelset, so he's wither misguided or the Ksyriums are a good thang.
Ride 'em, enjoy 'em.
Wattsy, not heard of any spoke failures from any of the tools I know that ride 'em. LBS tool rates them higher than Durace wheelset, so he's wither misguided or the Ksyriums are a good thang.
Ride 'em, enjoy 'em.
#7173
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Originally Posted by matagi
I think you should have read the reviews before you bought them. 

#7174
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Originally Posted by jock
Ouch!!
Wattsy, not heard of any spoke failures from any of the tools I know that ride 'em. LBS tool rates them higher than Durace wheelset, so he's wither misguided or the Ksyriums are a good thang.
Ride 'em, enjoy 'em.
Wattsy, not heard of any spoke failures from any of the tools I know that ride 'em. LBS tool rates them higher than Durace wheelset, so he's wither misguided or the Ksyriums are a good thang.
Ride 'em, enjoy 'em.
#7175
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Wattsy, I got 'em on my bike & have no complaints. Persoanlly I don't think they roll out quite as well as the Cosmics I had previously but they are a nice wheelset.
A couple of mates ride them too and like them, although if you are a big heavy unit (and I am not saying you are) you might not want to ride on them all the time. One mate is about 90kg (at 6'4") and a strong rider (been known to snaps cranks
) found them not quite sturdy enuff for day to day use.
A couple of mates ride them too and like them, although if you are a big heavy unit (and I am not saying you are) you might not want to ride on them all the time. One mate is about 90kg (at 6'4") and a strong rider (been known to snaps cranks
) found them not quite sturdy enuff for day to day use.




