You finally did something right. You must have been reading my posts at the forum, you couldn't have figured this out yourself.

So you've been putting down these bikes (and their riders in some cases) without any real world experience of your own? Got it. Added to ignore list.

The steeper the seat tube angle the lower you can set your bars without ill effects on the hip angle. Track bike have steeper seat tube angles.

The irony here is that those with road geometry (less steep of a seat tube angle) are actually trying to push it harder than he is by making the bars lower. This is a recipe for disaster. You can only go so far with road geometry unless you got really long femurs or are using really short cranks. You can tell by where the seat is how bad they are trying to push things. This is why they throw in the towel and put the bullhorns on.

Go ahead and put words in my mouth if it makes you feel better about yourself. Now go away.

Road bikes and conversions have the same geometry. Nothing new to me.

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These Spicers are pretty nice. I like the beefy looking drop outs.

Okay, I knew about the steeper angles- now I'm beginning to get the point about the low bar wrt track geom.

Understood. But the DeBe does have track geom. It IS meant to handle a lower bar- the owner simply opted not to use one. That's what was contradictory.

Ahh. Much better. Carry on with the pictures please.

Is my former bike hot or not?

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it think i threw this up already but i've been riding it for a bit now and man this bike is smooth. it's such a different feel from the pista. with the slack angles and extra weight it carries more momentum and tracks like it's on rails. it'd be a great fixie for a century. i have the pista 42/16 and the pinn 44/16 right now.
sorry if you've seen it before but i just felt like posting em again. i've had a hell of a week...
wheels on the pinno are IRO basics btw

Here are the bars that I have been babbling about in the bullhorn thread.

Attached to the mountain bike bars is my road bike with no derailleur hanger.

oh boy oh boy, i can't wait til my bike is up on the critical chopping block!

it's strange, i rode my friends bike who has similar bars and i was super skeptical at first too (always loved drops) but gosh, what a nice ride it was. you feel so much more upright, pedalling out of the saddle up hills is a real breeze, trackstands are easy. very comfortable for city riding. recommended!

Yup same here. Always rode bulls or drops. The risers are fairly new for me. But so far I am loving them more than any other bar.

Lots of nice bikes in here - you guys are hard core.

Mine: An old Bartali road frame coverted to FG. Repaint done in '99 to match my IF Crown Jewel. I've had this frame since '77 when i got it second hand as a road bike. I raced it as a junior then it sat unused for years untill i got back into the sport. The rear spacing is the same as a track bike so the cheap japanese track hub works well with out frame modifications. I ride this all the time. The gear is a 43x18. I have fixed on one side and BMX on the other.

Cheers!

i have risers on mine, and love them - i'm usually not working on going super-fast, and it's easier on my back. i really need to get some pics up.

you should also try cruiser bars. I had a lot of pain from riding and switched to risers for a while, then switched to cruisers. so comfy. I wouldn't dream of having an everyday commuter without them.

here is a few pics of me and the bike at the velodrome in Queens today.

OK. I tried to clean up the last few pages of this thread. I'd advise you to keep you ignore functions running. Let me know if other threads need cleaned up.
Thanks for your patience.

Stylin' pose on that first one. NYCBikes CityFixed?

Yea. One of my steeds. I did some major upgrades after I got it. Selle Titanium rail seat, Carbon fiber seatpost, different bars. I put the drop bars on for riding the track. When Im in the city I ride with profile bars and a front brake.

I know a few people in here hate NYC bikes, but this bike seems to be my fav. city fixed bike so far. Ive had IRO, Surly, Conversions,etc...

Next bike? Fetish cycles :)

Feh, I don't have any experience and based on others probably never will, but if it's working for you it's working for you, right? The only thing that really isn't speaking to me is the cable routing underneath the top tube. Makes the carry a bit of a pain.

How do those cranks treat you on the banks?

yea. I havnt had a problem yet. As odd as it sounds, They have been the nice to me and the prices have been great.

I havnt had any problems with the cranks yet. I have a set of carbon fiber fetish ones that Im going to put on it. Those should be really nice.

The cable routing pcs. will be taken off eventually.

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GO BANANA!
nice ride!

does anyone know how it is carrying a box on your bars with risers? I want to get some, but when you gotta carry a big ass box on your bars is it a pain? i used to have these really really tiny flat bars on my single speed and i couldn't carry anything on them. maybe carrying weight very interesting.

word.

For large boxes these racks are the bomb! http://cetmalabs.com/cetmarackspage.html