Is the ****in fork bent:eek: That has to be the ****in biggest ****in bike I have ever seen and I love every second of it. It was def custom, correct? Those ****in drop-out rule hard. I will be in Chicago this weekend, I would love to see that bike in person.

smash it up...

Biggest track I have seen was former NBA Bill Walton's track bike.

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Bill Walton has a track bike?

Absolutely awesome. Looks like a 64cm to me, may be even bigger though.

I saw a Serotta Fixed at Cycle Fit in London recently, the workmanship just doesn't come across in photos like it does in reality. Is yours a Legend Ti with track fittings? It's damn fine whatever it is.

Oh, and what chain are you running on that Record Pista crank? Looks like a Izumi Model V, is it 1/8? Only curious because I'm building a Record Pista fitted fixie at the moment and haven't yet settled on the chain.

[edit]Looking closer it seems to say HSB on the chain... ah well, I still think I'll lean towards the Izumi.

yeah back in the late 70s and early 80s he rode track bikes .

He is still riding ..http://www.athleticmindedtraveler.com/blog/?p=32

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/11282/

Bill Walton is the first big time roundball guy I actually met. Where Jordan is a motorcycle enthusiast, Walton enjoyed bicycles. Some of you may recall that Walton had ‘bad wheels’ in the nomenclature of the day -- bone spurs on his heels I believe. He couldn’t run to keep in shape or rehab from injury, so he took up cycling. Walton had bicycles custom built for both road and track -- before mountain biking had become more than a small cult sport. His playing career lasted years longer than it might have otherwise.

At what, six-eleven -- you can imagine that he cut a fine figure on a machine whose head (steering) tube was as long as most seat tubes. He even raced in Cat. 3 (Novice) races at the San Diego Velodrome, towering over the opposition in stature if not ability. As a fan and cycling celebrity he was invited or invited himself to the Coors Classic bicycle race back in the early eighties.

Bill got to ride in the official cars, hang out with the teams and was a medal presenter at several of the stages. Where the athletes stood on podium boxes, Bill stood on the ground and did not require the usual polite bow on the part of the recipient. He was Awesome Bill before Elliot won the Winston Million driving a Coors car. I have a few snapshots of Bill Walton at the race. The most amusing is with an ex-wife who was five-one and three quarters.






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http://origin.nba.com/media/walton_170_020428.jpg

I hope he's still riding, I saw him going down the street here a couple years ago and some joint or another was so ****ed up that he could barely walk.... Pro sports are rough, it seems...

I bought some bikes parts from an older roadie on Monday and he gave me a couple of old cycling books. I have been flipping through them today. There was a picture of Bill Walton on his track bike in one of them. I just looked at that book before reading this thread. Weird

Sakae Custom: Remove the spacers, flip the stem.

Just for the looks?

If that Serotta was made for him, it fits him so perfectly that it will blow your mind. In which case, leave the damn thing alone! It must feel like a great ride, and you don't get a custom Serotta just to muck up the fit for a touch of looks.

Umm, the bar will be in the exact same spot, except that the front end will be a touch less flexy, a touch lighter, and it will look like a properly set up bike. He (you) may have to leave on 5-10 mm of spacers.

Spacers+drop stem=immensely lame. All that on a custom frame=immensely lame*100


Of course, if you're not sure about bar position just yet, then forget what I said.

As to the perfect fit part, I'm not buying it. Whoever builds the bike, if you don't know exactly what you need, he won't be able to guess it. And a custom frame was def. not designed with the idea of putting on a 5cm stack of spacers, that's for sure. And then a drop stem... ouch.


Edit: sorry. I wanted to modify my previous post and ended up adding a new one. I suck.

Thanks. But I guess it is just two of us.

Hopefully tuesday after work, if not, probably by the weekend. I'm pretty close.

Tell us more about that Paramount if you don't mind. I have been looking for one for a short while now, not too aggressively though and was wondering what would be a good price. Pictures would be cool too.

My first foray out of the monstrosity that is the Toronto Fixed thread.

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/g...mplete.b1c.jpg

1. Thats not really a drop stem. The stem is parallel to the ground. Flipping it would make it look like a bum bike.

2. Flipping the stem would change the steering feel of the bike, as well as move the bars closer to the saddle.

Its obviously a huge bike and, given the quality of the bike, i'm sure the owner has done a lot to get the bike set up so it fits him and handles the way he wants it to. I'm pretty sure thats the definition of a properly set up bike.

If the stem is parallel to the ground, then the stem has drop. Head tubes aren't perpendicular to the ground, that's why stems with no rise (ie +/-0° or 90° stems or whatever you want to call them) point upwards.

I would assume that when he suggested flipping the stem that keeping the bars right-side-up was implied.

m.

I know what he meant, but when I think of a drop stem, I think of a stem that points towards the ground. I also knew that he implied keeping the bars right side up, but, personally, i think that a riser stem on a track bike looks pretty ghetto. Perhaps not the standard definition of bum bike, maybe you would prefer "old man cruiser?"

Jesus ****ing Christ in damned heaven, what are you talking about?

1. Has been addressed. If you flip that stem (yeah, keep the bars right side up...), it will point upwards quite a bit, so you can remove spacers. It won't look like a bumbike. it will look like a bike set up by a knowledgeable person. Having your bars a bit higher on a custom bike isn't embarrassing, You may have short arms, bad back, whatever. Having 2 inches of spacers and then the obligatory "look, I'm cool, I have a drop stem" stem on a custom is embarrassing. As I said, there is a minute stiffness and weight gain as well.


2. WTF? seriously. Just draw a little triangle for yourself (ESL q: what do you call a triangle that has 2 sides of equal length? And one that has a right angle?) The ****ing bar will be in the ****ing same position. Which part of that don't you understand?


Of course, in the end it will turn out that SC knows it's not a perfect setup and will change it once he gets everything dialed in... and here we are arguing about someone else's bike like three fools...



Edit: 32flavours: I love that thing to death. Congrats. Somehow the curvy TT works for me, and I have a soft spot for bikes with well-mounted colour-coordinated fenders anyway. I'd change the bars, stem and brake lever but the rest is lovely:)

Heh thanks. I'd change that stuff too if I had some money floating around, but as it is it's a budget build and I love 'er.

My Paramount track frame is a early '76 (2nd frame made that year) in the small 25" size. I bought it from the original owner a week ago. I bought it exactly as pictured. He sold the original wheelset to someone from his LBS. The Campy headset, BB, and crank are in great condition. As for a good price I wouldn't be exactly sure. I saw a complete Paramount track bike go for $800 on Ebay, and it was the worst listing ever. The seller had no clue what he was selling. I got a great price on mine. Actually, I got a deal of a lifetime on mine. I also got a bunch of parts and a '73 P13 Paramount from the same guy. The sorted details on the deal are on the C&V board Catch of the Day thread a couple pages back (page 68).

http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/da...m/DSCF0370.JPG

Here is a pic I took just to see what the bike might look like completed. I put my beater wheelset from my Falcon conversion on it, steel Cinelli bars, steel adjustable stem, and a 1/8" chain I had lying around together.
http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/da...m/DSCF0373.JPG

My sweet SS peugeot Triathlon.

wow that looks just like sikannas paramount. if you have a front brake for that bike, she's been looking for one.

http://static.flickr.com/68/170902234_3e231198f7.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/g4/37/602537/2/64052310.hLRXBIRE.jpg

basicially stock...Iro rear hub, and old Champion drop bars/genaric brake handle from '88 Schwinn Worldsport found on garbage day