GearsForFears

$440 for just the frameset? The Madison complete is $629. For what it would cost to build this bike up you could have a Masi Speciale, or a Cross-Check or Steamroller. I don't get it.

happytruck

compare w/ kilo fork
(only no eyelets)

idiq

Well that's why. The day that frameset needs to cost the same as a Madison or even a Masi (now, not the old Italian Masi) as a complete should be the same day you start pulling tarck trix on this:

brandonspeck

It looks nice, but I feel like it's nothing schwinn didn't do already with the madison. and $440 is steep imo.

91MF

i had a 06 langster comp and loved it. i'd buy that s-works if i had the funds or need.
i'll admit the theme bikes are corny. the boston does look pretty good tho.

idiq

Sorry for the bump, but don't think anyone else mentioned the frameset is made out of Reynolds 521.

iansmash

https://fixedgearleeds.blogspot.com/2...-langster.html


this guy says it's NJS certified lol

Johnny Nemo

Surely they're not going to release it in sensible colors? Good to see they are keeping up the fugly themes with models like the Las Vegas, New York and Tokyo ?!

bonechilling

Specialized was making steel bikes until 2006, I believe.

PedallingATX

specialized=lamest company in cycling.

I hate their proprietary fork/headset system on S works bikes. Lame.

jet sanchEz

Hrm, I personally think they are a great company with great customer service.

What proprietary system are you talking about on the S-Works stuff? Isn't it just the regular ol' integrated headset?

PedallingATX

nevermind, it's the crankset that's proprietary. Look at the s-works roubaix.

They might have good customer service, I don't know about that. I have just never liked their bikes. In the road biking world you see A LOT of specialized bikes, and I have ridden a bunch. They just never did it for me.

jet sanchEz

I owned a Specialized Roubaix for a few years and I liked it a lot.

I never tested their customer service all that much myself----I did ask quite a few questions of their rep and got many knowledgeable answers, which is good enough for me. However, there was a thread in the Road forum a few years ago where a guy bought a used Allez and, after buying it, he noticed a crack in the frame near the headset. He contacted Specialized and they gave him a new frame. I guess that this is not always going to be the case with Specialized but I thought it was above and beyond the duty of a manufacturer to do that.

Retem

That is one sexy piece of hardware



irrelevant point there are only a few companies in the world that make lugs and that is a common design
the frame doesn't appear to have any of tell tale marks of maxway so i would say no

at one pint specialized was NJS certified and had serveral frames made by toyo and makino
few of the older allez series were made by makino as well

PedallingATX

Yeah that is good about the warranty info. My girlfriend just had a deep head tube crack on her aluminum road bike, and Masi warrantied it. Another good company as far as that goes.

I guess my main beef w/ specialized is that I just don't like their bikes very much. Seem overpriced to me. I also don't really like Trek, and the 2 remind me a lot of each other.

idiq

The S-works transition uses a 1" top and 1 1/8" bottom headset, which is, although not proprietary, what I thought was first being talked about.

The main difference with the warranty is that the first case involves a second owner. A bicycle warranty is only legally good for the original owner, it is non-transferrable. If Specialized knew that, and still honored the warranty, that's pretty nice. The fact that the bike is old doesn't matter, a warranty is good for the life of the bike (with some exceptions such as the Trek Session frame).

That being said, I've warrantied two frames and neither times did the shop check - they just took a picture of it before, then sawed in half, and I got a new frame quickly.

Also, how do the Trek and Specialized look like each other? The T1 looks like a completely different bike IMO...

bonechilling

You don't know what you're talking about. BB30 is an open standard which is free for everyone to use, and even if it were proprietary, it would be Cannondale's and not Specialized's. It's also a huge improvement over traditional square-tapered and outboard-bearing bottom brackets in terms of stiffness and weight.

adriano 

we have a winner! its funny that bb30 has been around for a long, long time. it is a superior system that is in the process of catching on with many more manufacturers of both frames and components.

bonechilling

Yeah, I think I remember Saeco rolling it out for the 2000 or 2001 TDF. Word is that Giant is developing a BB30 TCR Advanced and that it's going to work its way down the lines, which leaves Trek as the only major frame-making hold-out. Shimano doesn't seem convinced either, but as SRAM continues to eat their lunch, they'll change their tune.

jet sanchEz

How good or bad is Reynolds 521? The Bianchi Pistas from the early '00s were 521, is that right? What other similar frames might be used as examples of a good build from this type of tubing?

And I am still waiting for some pics of this thing built up...get on it, Specialized!

SpiderMike

Just saw the 2010 catalog. Specialized Globe Roll 1 and 2. 1 has loose ball bearing in the hubs, 2 had sealed. 30mm deep v's. White specialized mondo tires. Frame is 520 Reynolds. 1" threadless fork. 1 peice stem/handlebar. Looks like an Aero type saddle. Not too shabby looking.

idiq

What's strange about the globe is that Specialized seems like it is almost making it another brand... Globe even has its own website.

I don't like it that much because it reminds me of a ghost bike.

idiq

Did a quick search and didn't find any other threads on this, but Specialized added two new Langster models, the L.A. and Moscow:

ADSR

BF: "The Langster is ugly, has a sloping top tube, and is made of aluminum. We prefer the classic look of steel with a horizontal top tube."

Specialized: "Here is a track bike made of steel with a horizontal top tube in classic paint jobs. It also has a quill stem for extra classic flare!"

BF: "...Well, um... It looks like a Madison! Yeah! So therefore, fail! And the other Langsters are still stupid! And... Specialized SUCKS! Ha!"

No pleasing you people, is there? People are going for the modern look now? When did this massive shift come about? If I'm not mistaken, Pista Concepts have existed harmoniously with steel for a while now. I figured it would be *****s on parade for the new steel langsters, but people just seem determined to hate Specialized. I still want one of those steel Allez models they came out with this year.

rogwilco

I think the steel Allez is absolutely gorgeous, and if I needed (could afford) another road bike, I'd seriously consider buying it.