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Spoonrobot 03-23-12 01:39 PM

I've found the R400s feel more similar to Ergos than they do Brifters, which I probably should have said in my first post. Carry on. :innocent:

hairnet 03-23-12 01:54 PM

I think they feel like the first generation of Campy Ergos
http://www.bike-vintage.com/739-779-...rs-9-speed.jpg

cc700 03-23-12 02:15 PM

speaking of which...

scrod, what's your opinion about geared road gruppos?

specifically, should i ditch my ultegra/DA mishmash of 6500 and 7700 for a campy centaur 10spd group?

i like the ultegra/da group right now but it's 9spd which is getting harder to find good chains for, and i like the idea of my cannondale having campy on it. however, i don't want to "spoil myself" as so many people justify not having campy because they want to still like other groups.

i'm also super into the idea of finding a used rival groupset.

or should i just stfu and ride?

Scrodzilla 03-23-12 02:20 PM

In all honestly, I couldn't care less about gruppos or which one is "better". Sorry, man.

/can'tshiftdon'twantto

lac29 03-23-12 02:25 PM

Do you use rim tape Scrod?

cc700 03-23-12 02:27 PM

well i think i should just stfu and ride. sure it would be nice to have a real groupset that all matched and was cool or whatever but honestly my bike works and that's all that should matter, especially with the shiftyshifty.

canshiftdowantto.

i think i'm going to ride ftp to marymoor now.

JesusBananas 03-23-12 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by cc700 (Post 14008560)
scrod, what's your opinion about geared road gruppos?

specifically, should i ditch my ultegra/DA mishmash of 6500 and 7700 for a campy centaur 10spd group?

i like the ultegra/da group right now but it's 9spd which is getting harder to find good chains for, and i like the idea of my cannondale having campy on it. however, i don't want to "spoil myself" as so many people justify not having campy because they want to still like other groups.

i'm also super into the idea of finding a used rival groupset.

I do believe that question is probably best answered by a different subforum. :lol:

Scrodzilla 03-23-12 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by lac29 (Post 14008593)
Do you use rim tape Scrod?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/16939464.jpg

My wheels are all currently setup with red Veloplugs.

adriano 03-23-12 03:54 PM

3m rimtape like a weenie, but it is cheap.

calbob76 03-24-12 10:51 AM

Would using a fork designed for integrated headsets on a non-integrated headset function? Would it still accept the crown race or is there one built in or would it just not be compatable?

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 10:58 AM

It would most likely work but look a little wonky. Depending on the fork and headset being used, you may run into some snags when it comes to the bottom bearing being sealed from water and such.

I remember ddeadserious had a carbon fork with an oversized crown on his 722TS and had an issue with a visible gap between the crown race and the bottom of the headset. Hopefully he'll see this and post a pic.

McChinken 03-24-12 01:28 PM

I just got my kmc 710sl but my park tool ct-3 won't seem to work, do I need a different chain tool or do I just suck?

Jaytron 03-24-12 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mc*****en (Post 14011549)
I just got my kmc 710sl but my park tool ct-3 won't seem to work, do I need a different chain tool or do I just suck?

Mine worked for me, you may just suck.

Soo__Fuego 03-24-12 01:39 PM

The Dia Compe BRS 100 feels stroooong!!! Thanks Scrod.

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Mc*****en (Post 14011549)
I just got my kmc 710sl but my park tool ct-3 won't seem to work, do I need a different chain tool or do I just suck?

I've said it a bunch of times before, I hate using a CT-3 on K710 chains. You can get it to work but using a Rivoli tool is much easier.

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Soo__Fuego (Post 14011582)
The Dia Compe BRS 100 feels stroooong!!! Thanks Scrod.

Right on. That's a great break for the money and I feel it's underrated and often overlooked/dismissed because it comes in pretty colors.

dddavid 03-24-12 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 14011556)
Mine worked for me, you may just suck.

I suck too. But I was using that rivoli chain tool which now has a u-shaped handle

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 02:06 PM

User error. I've never broken one.

dddavid 03-24-12 02:10 PM

Yes I know I must be doing something wrong. It's not broken just bent. Should I be doing anything different than if I were using it on another chain? Or is it just brute force? Thanks Scrod.

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 02:29 PM

You really don't need "brute force" to push the pin out of a K710. It's the same as any other chain, really. If you're bending or breaking chain tools, it's because the link wasn't properly aligned with the tool.

Jaytron 03-24-12 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by dddavid (Post 14011669)
Yes I know I must be doing something wrong. It's not broken just bent. Should I be doing anything different than if I were using it on another chain? Or is it just brute force? Thanks Scrod.

You're doing it wrong. I know exactly what you're doing (friend of mine did the same thing and had the same results):
http://www.parktool.com/uploads/imag...dexample_2.jpg

SSbalt 03-24-12 04:32 PM

Going from a 15t cog to an 18t, I don't have my bike here to look at it - am I going to need a bigger chain?

Scrodzilla 03-24-12 04:34 PM

Most likely.

JesusBananas 03-24-12 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 14011640)
That's a great break for the money

:twitchy:

dddavid 03-24-12 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 14011944)
You're doing it wrong. I know exactly what you're doing (friend of mine did the same thing and had the same results):
http://www.parktool.com/uploads/imag...dexample_2.jpg

Haha, no I wasn't doing that. I think Scrod's right in that the pin wasn't aligned. I bent the handle because I was using pliers for more leverage. ID-10T error for sure...


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