You guys and your sweet bar spin capable bikes.

I went down to my local craft store, bought the thickest piece of scrap leather I could find in a color that matched the bike, and 3ft of leather cord.

It was only like 6 bucks total. Came out real well, and is really unobtrusive.

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Bull**** there's no way 3ft of leather cord is <16g

I used no where near 3ft. More like a foot, if that.

So it was only -4g.

negative 16g!

My bike floats when I'm not on it.

You happen to know the BCD of the fine cranks (creaky boat anchors) that Trek put on my Earl? I'd like to put on some fine SRAM external bearing cranks I have because they'd match better, then I could move the Campy cranks from my parts bin to the Italian cross bike the GXP's are currently fitted on.

Ah cain't reed.

This is going to make my bike lighter? Mrs. Wentworth was right, arts & crafts really are cool!

I believe it's 130bcd. You could always measure.

You have a unique perspective that others on this forum do not have in regards to margins and profits but I think it's safe to say the majority of these dudes here would immediately cry ripoff if they found out exactly what kind of margin these cycling related companies were holding.

Without solid numbers and a business oriented perspective you shouldn't trash a company for making a profit. That kind of margin would be applauded in any other forum. What you call obscene markup is completely relative.

MAP policies and MSRP are to level the playing field in terms of dealers, not because they're afraid they will make too much money. That's why you'll often get inflated MSRP's while your cost remains the same.

I don't visit this forum for Economics 101 talk.

That would imply that I have an instrument to measure with, and sadly that is not the case..

If you don't want to have a discussion about cost and markup try to avoid making rash statements about a business you're not involved in.

Who doesn't have access to a ruler?

Yes, every company needs to make a profit to survive in any economy. However, Superb's markup - especially on rebranded products they claim to be their own - is much higher than it needs to be. They're selling hype and bull****.

This being said, if you want to be a Superb fanboy and support their overinflated prices, I'll still sleep soundly.

Obviously TylerMatthews has no connection with whatever shop it is most people on this site don't like. And he is not butt hurt about it at all.

That'd be me..

I don't think he works there but he did pay too much for a Colossi Collosione.

Tough times in Germany these days.

Have yet to need one actually, believe it or not.

It all makes sense now. That's why he's butt hurt.

Haha, name calling? Ok, so a LED light manufactured in China has a markup far over 100%, but when that's scaled up it's suddenly obscene? It's all relative and you're operating a tiny, tiny shop. Deciding to take the "high road" and hold low margin may be noble but not always the smartest. You're just taking a slice of the pie. The manufacture is certainly doing whatever they can to increase their margin.

I'm not affiliated no, but I am a fan of privately owned local business and I think you have little knowledge on cost, margin, and longevity. I'm a customer of both Scrod's and Superb. I prefer Scrod's prices. Nagrom and the like are children, caught a peak behind the curtain, and freaked out. These markups are completely ordinary.

No regrets there, completely comfortable with the price I paid. I do find it painful to sit back and watch a seemingly important member of a small to medium sized sub-forum, of a slightly larger overall forum, completely trash a company because they think it charges "too much". Congratulations on your internet success. I would love to see if your business acumen translates to real life. Haha.

I don't quite understand what you're missing. It's not markup... its markup on markup...

It's a 700 dollar price tag on a 350 dollar retail product that wholesales much less than that.

Dude, you're a fool. My shop does just as well "in real life" as we do on the internet.

You're either saying this because

A: you've got a money tree in your yard and don't give a single **** about how much you pay for things

or

B: you bought it before you realized you could drive 30 minutes outside the city and save yourself 250-300 bucks and you're trying to make yourself feel okay about it

Dude, you're a fool. My shop does just as well "in real life" as we do on the internet.

That was directed towards Nagrom.

I think that was pointed at me. I'm "seemingly important". schweet.