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Old 10-15-11 | 12:22 AM
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Leader 722 Sizing Question?

So I'm looking at the leader 722 frame and steel fork. I'm riding on a 52'' 2006 SE Draft frame which feels small. It's an odd frame, I think it may have smashed up geometry causing it to feel smaller than a normal 52''? This is currently how it's set up:



It feels okay when gripping the top of the bars or on the slopes, but in the drops I feel cramped up rather than stretched out. I have a PK Ripper as well in 56'' and it feels a bit tall. I'm ~5'9''-5'10''
My question is then, how does the 722 compare in sizing? The color I want comes in a 55'' but would that be too large if the pk 56'' feels big? I have my second color choice in 53'' but would I end up still feeling cramped, especially in the drops? Just looking for a bit of advice / input before I pull the trigger. Let me know if there is any more info that might be useful for ideal fitment.
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Old 10-15-11 | 01:46 AM
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Bike measurements are in centimeters. 52 inches would be huge.

From what I understand, there is nothing unusual about the SE Draft's geometry, aside from it being relatively relaxed. However, if you're between 5'9" and 5'10", it's likely that it is too small.

The important thing about leader frames is that the top tubes are pretty long. This means that it may be wiser to size down rather than up, though you should definitely check the geo chart.

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Old 10-15-11 | 02:42 AM
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the 722 TT isn't crazy long like the 725

that's also the best looking draft I've ever seen.
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Old 10-15-11 | 07:21 AM
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In before Jaytron's fit calculator.

Base your decision on top tube length. I'm 5'10 and comfortably ride a 58cm 722. I've got arms like a gorilla though, so you'd most likely be better with something a little smaller.
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Old 10-15-11 | 08:40 AM
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thats totally awesome of leader to publish front centers. thats legit.
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Old 10-15-11 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
In before Jaytron's fit calculator.

Base your decision on top tube length. I'm 5'10 and comfortably ride a 58cm 722. I've got arms like a gorilla though, so you'd most likely be better with something a little smaller.
Damn, I was asleep. I'm posting it anyways.

FITMENT QUESTION?




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Old 10-15-11 | 09:29 AM
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everyone says leaders fit long. theyre right. the 722s steep seat tubes push the top tube forward an average of 1.5cm beyond the norms from cannondale, cervelo, and others. you can set the saddle forward, sacrificing comfort, or you can set the saddle back, making fit tricky. if you sit back, you can go a little smaller to get the right reach, but the head tube will be way too short, or you can go a little bigger to get the bars at closer to the right height and the reach will be quite far. the far reach results in needing to use a shorter stem. the slack head tube calls for a longer stem to get your weight over the front wheel. as a result, these frames will not climb or take high speed corners as well or as comfortably as others. if you dont much care about doing those well or comfortably, dont sweat it.

the problems are even worse with the kagero and the cinelli mashes. the seat tube angles are steeper still, getting into the 75.5 76 range even in the large sizes, and the headtubes are cut even shorter. if you are doing a triathalon, these frames are very well suited. if you are not and you didnt pay shop cost, then at least you look like a boss.

tldr: my fitment calculator.
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Old 10-15-11 | 09:33 AM
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Sweet, thanks you guys. I think I've made up my silly mind.
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