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Old 10-02-14, 05:27 PM
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Today I can add this to one of my reasons I should finally break down and get myself a go-pro for my commutes:

Riding back home, I hear a big loud blast of fighter jet roar, I look up, I see 6 blue angels flying low toward me in side by side formation. Executing their vertical sweep maneuver right in front of me with white smoke contrails. It was surreal.

For all you guys in San Diego or LA, the MCAS Miramar airshow is this weekend, Oct. 3,4,5. And if you can tell from my post, you can figure out the stars of the show.
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today i weigh 12lbs less than i did 10 days ago...thanks to commuting in to work everyday and watching what i eat.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
Likewise. On cardio days I generally just hop on a lifefitness cycling machine, set it to level 25, 60 minutes, and just ride. Followed by a prolonged cool down 15 minute cool down at the end. And then take a picture of the 1000+ calories supposedly "burned" to txt to the sqrl.
If I'm not feeling interval that I would just set it to "kiliamanjaro" for a climb of the same length. All of which I pretty much zone out and just ride.

Yeah I rather be outside anyhow but you gotta do what you gotta do after a work day.
Ya, but are you in pain? Level 25 hurts, ya? It's hard to ignore pain.

Most find that it takes more willpower to ride for a given duration/intensity indoors. Still, I know of some people that ride primarily indoors, because of the control that it provides. Crazy talk.
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Old 10-02-14, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Ya, but are you in pain? Level 25 hurts, ya? It's hard to ignore pain.

Most find that it takes more willpower to ride for a given duration/intensity indoors. Still, I know of some people that ride primarily indoors, because of the control that it provides. Crazy talk.
Nope no pain whatsoever. Only downside for me besides time is that I'll be drenched in sweat at the end.
I have a whole album of those pics I mentioned earlier of the machine display.

My trick is to stay hydrated throughout and drinking on time intervals not when I need it.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
Nope no pain whatsoever.
Well there you go, you could've gone harder
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Most find that it takes more willpower to ride for a given duration/intensity indoors. Still, I know of some people that ride primarily indoors, because of the control that it provides. Crazy talk.
I can attest to that from when I rowed crew. Using the stationary machine hurt like hell and time seemed to stand still. Overall it was very beneficial to see my power and racing split and work towards a PR for each test. I left with a 6:44 for my 2k and I vividly remember the pain during and after that effort. I don't think I will ever take a spinning class or spend much time on a trainer.

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[QUOTE=TMonk;17182835]
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Nope no pain whatsoever./QUOTE]

Well there you go, you could've gone harder
My threshold for pain is pretty big. Not to mention there's no tryhard meter on the machine besides heartrate and caloric burn. And besides when you've maxed out the machine like I have for 3 years you get used to it.

Of which I've always aimed to keep my heartrate in the 170+ area throughout the 70 minute timer and burning 1000+ calories in one sitting.

I'm pretty sure I've tried hard enough when I can wring my shirt out of sweat at the end of each session.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
I've always aimed to keep my heartrate in the 170+ area throughout the 70 minute timer and burning 1000+ calories in one sitting.
So you are 20 years old ?
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
So you are 20 years old ?
Nope, I'm just clumsy with my keyboard numpad.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
I'm pretty sure I've tried hard enough when I can wring my shirt out of sweat at the end of each session.
Well, trying "hard enough" is a personal decision, and I'm not sure if amount of sweat produced indoors when there is no cooling airflow is a good indicator, certainly not in my experience.

Also, you may have a high tolerance for pain, and be quite fit (you should race bikes!), but I guarantee you that you are personally capable of putting yourself through immense pain on a bicycle, certainly more than "no pain whatsoever"

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I can attest to that from when I rowed crew. Using the stationary machine hurt like hell and time seemed to stand still. Overall it was very beneficial to see my power and racing split and work towards a PR for each test. I left with a 6:44 for my 2k and I vividly remember the pain during and after that effort. I don't think I will ever take a spinning class or spend much time on a trainer.
Yep. When you're outside you can directly experience the effects of your work; by having dynamic surroundings and experiencing that great sensation of speed.

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So you are 20 years old ?
Also, I get what you are saying, that he is exaggerating, but that 220-Age formula for HR is BS.

It's an average indicator at best, and the outliers/stdev is huge. Take me as an example: My zone 4 (threshold) is 174-187bpm, and like I've told you before, I've done a 45min climb at 186. Does it mean I'm fit, intrinsically? No. It just means my heart rate zones are high, resting through max.

Power, more specifically, W/kg, is the most important metric for determining fitness as it is objective. If I recall correctly from my copy of Friel's The Cyclist's Training Bible, in the HR zone chart, there are columns for a span of more then 20bpm at LTHR. This means that a rider of the same fitness as me could be producing 166bpm up the same 45 min climb, all-out.
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Well, trying "hard enough" is a personal decision, and I'm not sure if amount of sweat produced indoors when there is no cooling airflow is a good indicator, certainly not in my experience.

Also, you may have a high tolerance for pain, and be quite fit (you should race bikes!), but I guarantee you that you are personally capable of putting yourself through immense pain on a bicycle, certainly more than "no pain whatsoever"
I've done that to see how much I can do in that time, legs felt like jelly when I got off and I ended up taking a PTO the next day. I know my limits. What I'm trying to say is I'm just doing upkeep.

I meant to hit 150 BTW.... jeez guys
And yeah I know of the 220-age formula, it's right in front of me every minute I'm on the damn thing.

Here's one from just today anyhow



And some more:









I've got a bunch more.

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What I'm trying to say is I'm just doing upkeep..
Ah! Well that's why it's not so painful then.

I still stand by my original point:

For a given power output (or "effort" or "heart rate") and duration, perceived exertion is higher indoors than outdoors. While that's not a universal truth, it almost is. You must be an outlier.

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I've done that to see how much I can do in that time, legs felt like jelly when I got off and I ended up taking a PTO the next day...
Atta boy!
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No pain, no gain.
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Ah! Well that's why it's not so painful then.

I still stand by my original point:

For a given power output (or "effort" or "heart rate") and duration, perceived exertion is higher indoors than outdoors. While that's not a universal truth, it almost is. You must be an outlier.
Oh I didn't disagree with you I was just putting out my assertion/ take on riding indoors. I guess scenery deprivation and monotony must have a part in it anyhow.
As come to think of it, I haven't given it much thought until now as I just do it, either I'm zoned out or in better words, completely focused/ concentrated on riding that I don't notice anything else and I'm think I'm zoning out.
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today i weigh 12lbs less than i did 10 days ago...thanks to commuting in to work everyday and watching what i eat.
Nice! That type of weight savings is what money can't buy! Keep it up!
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All this exercise talk is making me feel old and slow... heh.
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Today I got my bike stolen.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4697018589.html

EDIT: Someone flagged my post.

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Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
Nice! That type of weight savings is what money can't buy! Keep it up!
damn thats intense!! congrats!!

man all this talk makes me wish i could actually race bikes around here. gotta get my money right. i bet i could give folks a hell of a run for their money on a steel 5 speed hahah. if im ever outta town im hitting somebody on here up for a ride, dolphinately.

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Today I got my bike stolen.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4697018589.html

EDIT: Someone flagged my post.
f that. i sold a like, 62cm raleigh to my friend a couple months ago, somebody stole it outta his backyard. feels bad man.

also earlier today my friend ashley said "weenage tasteland" and my head exploded

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Nice! That type of weight savings is what money can't buy! Keep it up!
+1 nice work johnnytheboy

I've got 5-10lbs of fat that I could stand to lose myself. But I love beer and cookies so much.... Ahhh
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man all this talk makes me wish i could actually race bikes around here. gotta get my money right
do it!
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Today I sold my Giant Allegre and Retrospec Mantra. Owning 5 bikes was getting a little bonkers. Will be switching to my Fuji America and Leader 725 as my primary road bike and FG/SS.

Also something about owning the same type of frame as Justin Bieber just.....no.
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Tonight at work we started a US Ebola betting pool. We're all going to hell.
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Tonight at work we started a US Ebola betting pool. We're all going to hell.
Wow that's a bit too soon, then again I would bet $50 that the next case is in california or new york.
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