Nope no pain whatsoever. Only downside for me besides time is that I'll be drenched in sweat at the end.
I have a whole album of those pics I mentioned earlier of the machine display.

My trick is to stay hydrated throughout and drinking on time intervals not when I need it.

Well there you go, you could've gone harder

I can attest to that from when I rowed crew. Using the stationary machine hurt like hell and time seemed to stand still. Overall it was very beneficial to see my power and racing split and work towards a PR for each test. I left with a 6:44 for my 2k and I vividly remember the pain during and after that effort. I don't think I will ever take a spinning class or spend much time on a trainer.

[QUOTE=TMonk;17182835]My threshold for pain is pretty big. Not to mention there's no tryhard meter on the machine besides heartrate and caloric burn. And besides when you've maxed out the machine like I have for 3 years you get used to it.

Of which I've always aimed to keep my heartrate in the 170+ area throughout the 70 minute timer and burning 1000+ calories in one sitting.

I'm pretty sure I've tried hard enough when I can wring my shirt out of sweat at the end of each session.

So you are 20 years old ?

Nope, I'm just clumsy with my keyboard numpad.

Well, trying "hard enough" is a personal decision, and I'm not sure if amount of sweat produced indoors when there is no cooling airflow is a good indicator, certainly not in my experience.

Also, you may have a high tolerance for pain, and be quite fit (you should race bikes!), but I guarantee you that you are personally capable of putting yourself through immense pain on a bicycle, certainly more than "no pain whatsoever"

Yep. When you're outside you can directly experience the effects of your work; by having dynamic surroundings and experiencing that great sensation of speed.

Also, I get what you are saying, that he is exaggerating, but that 220-Age formula for HR is BS.

It's an average indicator at best, and the outliers/stdev is huge. Take me as an example: My zone 4 (threshold) is 174-187bpm, and like I've told you before, I've done a 45min climb at 186. Does it mean I'm fit, intrinsically? No. It just means my heart rate zones are high, resting through max.

Power, more specifically, W/kg, is the most important metric for determining fitness as it is objective. If I recall correctly from my copy of Friel's The Cyclist's Training Bible, in the HR zone chart, there are columns for a span of more then 20bpm at LTHR. This means that a rider of the same fitness as me could be producing 166bpm up the same 45 min climb, all-out.

I've done that to see how much I can do in that time, legs felt like jelly when I got off and I ended up taking a PTO the next day. I know my limits. What I'm trying to say is I'm just doing upkeep.

I meant to hit 150 BTW.... jeez guys
And yeah I know of the 220-age formula, it's right in front of me every minute I'm on the damn thing.

Here's one from just today anyhow



And some more:









I've got a bunch more.

Ah! Well that's why it's not so painful then.

I still stand by my original point:

For a given power output (or "effort" or "heart rate") and duration, perceived exertion is higher indoors than outdoors. While that's not a universal truth, it almost is. You must be an outlier.

Atta boy!

No pain, no gain.

Oh I didn't disagree with you I was just putting out my assertion/ take on riding indoors. I guess scenery deprivation and monotony must have a part in it anyhow.
As come to think of it, I haven't given it much thought until now as I just do it, either I'm zoned out or in better words, completely focused/ concentrated on riding that I don't notice anything else and I'm think I'm zoning out.

Nice! That type of weight savings is what money can't buy! Keep it up!

All this exercise talk is making me feel old and slow... heh.

Today I got my bike stolen.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4697018589.html

EDIT: Someone flagged my post.

damn thats intense!! congrats!!

man all this talk makes me wish i could actually race bikes around here. gotta get my money right. i bet i could give folks a hell of a run for their money on a steel 5 speed hahah. if im ever outta town im hitting somebody on here up for a ride, dolphinately.

f that. i sold a like, 62cm raleigh to my friend a couple months ago, somebody stole it outta his backyard. feels bad man.

also earlier today my friend ashley said "weenage tasteland" and my head exploded

+1 nice work johnnytheboy

I've got 5-10lbs of fat that I could stand to lose myself. But I love beer and cookies so much.... Ahhh

do it!

Today I sold my Giant Allegre and Retrospec Mantra. Owning 5 bikes was getting a little bonkers. Will be switching to my Fuji America and Leader 725 as my primary road bike and FG/SS.

Also something about owning the same type of frame as Justin Bieber just.....no.

Tonight at work we started a US Ebola betting pool. We're all going to hell.

Wow that's a bit too soon, then again I would bet $50 that the next case is in california or new york.

Next case, if it even makes it stateside, is going to be immediately contained.

Good job Johnnytheboy! Kep it up!

Ive officially gained 30 since may sitting on the couch and in the wheelchair. Found out yesterday that somehow I had almost no vitamin d in my blood despite taking 2kmg/day. Today I took my first 50k mg vitamin d pill and I'm back down to one crutch. Hopefully I can loose my new backfat, gut and ti**ies at the same rate as Johnny next spring and summer.

Optimist.

Today I got my ass up early and drudged up Latigo Canyon on a FG for the first time. I got some odd looks out there coming down was harder because that's no small canyon.