Tap and grinde or hack it off?
07-25-10 | 09:54 AM
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By tapping, I mean threading the d.o. -won't hurt it for another simplex install. *** The adj screw (flipped aound so the head contacts the frame) looks ok for a stop.*** Here is a pic of tire position with the simplex on it. With the hanger and SunT, the wheel sits farther up than shown. The wheels are the 27 origs. Tires-27 1 1/4 (32-630) It will never be sold-perhaps in a yard sale someday in the hopefully far far future. Other componenets have been changed, so it is no longer stock. Like the bike-would like better shifting. Have decided not to hack off the hanger. Not my intention to tic people off-it must have been done before-was looking for those opinions on how. BTW-thanks for the offer on the dr-but I'll sort this out.
-Kurt
P.S.: Post a photo of your hanger. There is no reason for the hanger to shove the wheel any further forward than the spacer that was there before it.
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07-25-10 | 04:30 PM
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Opinion? It's fact.
I'd pull the Simplex RD off my Peugeot PY-10 to show you what would happen with the Suntour, but something tells me that you're not going to hear of any other option other than irreversible modification.
-Kurt
I'd pull the Simplex RD off my Peugeot PY-10 to show you what would happen with the Suntour, but something tells me that you're not going to hear of any other option other than irreversible modification.
-Kurt
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07-26-10 | 09:12 AM
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Should have took a picture with the ST on there-as my word isn't good enough. I've nothing to gain by lieing. Seem to have offended you personally in some way. It needs to be altered, yes-main question was hack or tap (best way) Thank you for all the help. Follow up unnecessary as I won't be needing this site again.
07-26-10 | 10:08 AM
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You pissed him off, you crusty old curmudgeon.
07-26-10 | 12:42 PM
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Sorry we offended the O.P.
The simple basis of it is, old french bikes are a world of their own, a world filled with potential pitfalls waiting to ensnare the uninitiated. A proper French build takes far more patience than a build based on almost any other vintage frame. From my own experience, a deep supply of spare parts and a certain level of patience is almost essential.
The simple basis of it is, old french bikes are a world of their own, a world filled with potential pitfalls waiting to ensnare the uninitiated. A proper French build takes far more patience than a build based on almost any other vintage frame. From my own experience, a deep supply of spare parts and a certain level of patience is almost essential.
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07-31-10 | 05:52 AM
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hrm... i'm embarking on building my lil french frame too.. and this 'pitfall' called simplex dropout seems to be a handful... there are a few simplex RD on eBay now and 1 slj that is ending in another hr.
sorry i don't mean to hijack, is there any other RD that would fit into the simplex drop? Sachs Huret... they are french too..
sorry i don't mean to hijack, is there any other RD that would fit into the simplex drop? Sachs Huret... they are french too..
07-31-10 | 08:55 AM
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It gets a bit irritating when every newbie introduced to Simplex dropouts refuses to understand them for what they were intended, especially when simply using a basic, non-plastic (read = reliable) Simplex RD is - bar none - the easiest way to make a Simplex dropout work in your favor.
Not only that, one even has a choice between straight or drop parallelogram with Simplex; enough to satisfy both Campagnolo and SunTour fans alike.
Correction. "I," not "we." Don't unnecessarily blame the rest of the forum on account of my own irritability.
-Kurt
P.S.: Come to think of it, if that dropout were tapped, wouldn't a Mavic SSC RD fit with no further modifications? Just a thought - especially as a Mavic SSC will likely run the OP more than a reasonably-priced Simplex SX 610.
Not only that, one even has a choice between straight or drop parallelogram with Simplex; enough to satisfy both Campagnolo and SunTour fans alike.
Correction. "I," not "we." Don't unnecessarily blame the rest of the forum on account of my own irritability.
-Kurt
P.S.: Come to think of it, if that dropout were tapped, wouldn't a Mavic SSC RD fit with no further modifications? Just a thought - especially as a Mavic SSC will likely run the OP more than a reasonably-priced Simplex SX 610.
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07-31-10 | 08:28 PM
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It gets a bit irritating when every newbie introduced to Simplex dropouts refuses to understand them for what they were intended, especially when simply using a basic, non-plastic (read = reliable) Simplex RD is - bar none - the easiest way to make a Simplex dropout work in your favor.
Not only that, one even has a choice between straight or drop parallelogram with Simplex; enough to satisfy both Campagnolo and SunTour fans alike.
Correction. "I," not "we." Don't unnecessarily blame the rest of the forum on account of my own irritability.
-Kurt
P.S.: Come to think of it, if that dropout were tapped, wouldn't a Mavic SSC RD fit with no further modifications? Just a thought - especially as a Mavic SSC will likely run the OP more than a reasonably-priced Simplex SX 610.
Not only that, one even has a choice between straight or drop parallelogram with Simplex; enough to satisfy both Campagnolo and SunTour fans alike.
Correction. "I," not "we." Don't unnecessarily blame the rest of the forum on account of my own irritability.
-Kurt
P.S.: Come to think of it, if that dropout were tapped, wouldn't a Mavic SSC RD fit with no further modifications? Just a thought - especially as a Mavic SSC will likely run the OP more than a reasonably-priced Simplex SX 610.
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