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Old 05-12-15, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Insulting you personally or otherwise was the last thing I wanted to do. I'm fascinated by your and Les's endless appetite for more of the same GENERAL kinds of bikes you already have. I don't mean to disparage it, only to discuss it. I'm sorry if I offended you. I won't bring it up again.
...the only other thing I can say that might provide further clarification is that I think you are confusing Tiffany lamps with illumination devices. Of course they are that, but so much more.
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It appeals to my German half.
...well, the Euro is down against the dollar, so now might be the time.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...well, the Euro is down against the dollar, so now might be the time.
My Sicilian better half would kill me; in my sleep.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
The old steel treks are great riding bikes, not overly impressed with the newer stuff to be honest.

That being said, inadvertently dropped a guy on a project one on a climb today while out on my ride. He passed me at the bottom of this climb but must have blown himself up in doing so, seeing as I spin past him 20 yards later. Heard him reaching for gears as I passed.
Said climb is a long gradual climb, but the final part of it is nasty.
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The old steel treks are great riding bikes, not overly impressed with the newer stuff to be honest.

That being said, inadvertently dropped a guy on a project one on a climb today while out on my ride. He passed me at the bottom of this climb but must have blown himself up in doing so, seeing as I spin past him 20 yards later. Heard him reaching for gears as I passed.
What were you on?
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Old 05-12-15, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Raise your hand if you had a cycling facepalm today.
Minor facepalm of riding a few miles in the rain wearing sneakers, slipping around on some SPD 520 pedals.

Butt's a little wet from fenderlessness, too.
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Old 05-12-15, 10:49 PM
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Well, I'm curious now. When you say "general" kinds of bikes, what do you mean? Are you thinking it would be- for lack of a more apt word- "better" to own a pure form of each variety of bike like a CF road bike, a mountain bike with suspension, a fixie, a BMX bike, a cruiser, etc or bikes with widely divergent gearings or what? What do you feel would be not "the same"?

If I had unlimited space and a less limited income, there are bikes I would have around because I love their lines. LoP posted a picture of that "maroon" Free Spirit and I'm not too embarrassed to say I sometimes gaze at it admiringly as, between rides, it hangs on the bedroom wall. (Is that sick?)There was a green one at the bike shop for a while and I liked that one too but I prefer this dark "nearly the inside of a cherry pie" red.

I have a Trek 820 in the blue fade from 1995. I didn't fall in love with the purple 830 we had in the shop and I'm not sure why but I liked its looks a lot. There was a red with yellow accoutrements Trek in another thread I very much lusted after and the bike below isn't mine but I wouldn't kick it out of the garage either. There's something about the way the Trek folks draw bikes. I guess it's a good thing the conditions above don't prevail.

Yes, the pure type of each is what I would assemble for myself in a color scheme I really liked and at as high a level of parts and frame as I could afford. Then I would be done with that kind of bike as long as I liked its ride. I get that you guys are collectors at heart, and that is what I meant fascinates me. I am not putting it down. I was just interested in exploring it as it is so different from my MO. The last thing I want is a garage full of similar old bikes, but that is just me. Maybe the real problem is that the title of this thread says it all, and I am just not addicted enough. I thought I was, but listening to you guys has opened my eyes.

I hope my probing hasn't offended you too.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Here's my Ishiwata-tubing. Rides like a dream. Cuz it's real.



@3alarmer and @LesterOfPuppets - any particular brand of skin walls you prefer?
I really like the blackwall versions of this in 28mm, so will likely get a couple if Western ever gets the 120tpi ones in tan wall for $40 or less. The blackwall ones are pretty loose, which is nice for installation but the thought of the results of riding one upon flatting are a little scary, easy for them to flop off the rim and get locked up.

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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
What were you on?
Steam Roller.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Minor facepalm of riding a few miles in the rain wearing sneakers, slipping around on some SPD 520 pedals.

Butt's a little wet from fenderlessness, too.
Must have been on the way home from class because when we rode to the store on the tandem, I was your fender. LOL
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...the only other thing I can say that might provide further clarification is that I think you are confusing Tiffany lamps with illumination devices. Of course they are that, but so much more.
I agree with you. Excellent analogy. I understand the difference. I WOULD own a Tiffany lamp. BUT I wouldn't own a Tiffany lamp that I didn't want to use for illumination on a regular basis. Neither would I hang or place one in the same room with another lamp of the same function. And I doubt I would have more than one. So therein lies the difference between us I suspect.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Yes, the pure type of each is what I would assemble for myself in a color scheme I really liked and at as high a level of parts and frame as I could afford. Then I would be done with that kind of bike as long as I liked its ride. I get that you guys are collectors at heart, and that is what I meant fascinates me. I am not putting it down. I was just interested in exploring it as it is so different from my MO. The last thing I want is a garage full of similar old bikes, but that is just me. Maybe the real problem is that the title of this thread says it all, and I am just not addicted enough. I thought I was, but listening to you guys has opened my eyes.

I hope my probing hasn't offended you too.
Takes a prober to know one. Plus it takes quite a bit to offend me. After all, one day last week a customer called me a "rhymes with witch" by implication and later in the day another, one who may have been on her phone or may have had Tourette's, responded to my "Hi" with "Don't talk to me, you P.O.S." Only she didn't abbreviate it. *sigh* Fortunately, not every day is like that and I have LoP to come home to on the days that are.
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Hmm, some sources say the tanwall LGG are dual compound, and others say that the dual compound LGGs are 120tpi. I haven't seen anyone say specifically that tanwall LGGs are available in 120tpi.

Looks like Universal has them for $33, so tempting anyways. Even the 60tpi blackwall 28mm ones I have ride pretty nice.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
Some beautiful bikes! Love the Paramount.
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If I had this pic poster-size, I'd put it up somewhere. One step better would be an exploded diagram of it. I love those.
#nerd
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
Takes a prober to know one. Plus it takes quite a bit to offend me. After all, one day last week a customer called me a "rhymes with witch" by implication and later in the day another, one who may have been on her phone or may have had Tourette's, responded to my "Hi" with "Don't talk to me, you P.O.S." Only she didn't abbreviate it. *sigh* Fortunately, not every day is like that and I have LoP to come home to on the days that are.
GTFOH !!

See that's why I couldn't work retail in a place like Walmart ... I'd have cursed somebody out before a week was out. Accolades to your patience and tolerance.
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Time for the weekly Wednesday ride. We call ourselves the "Usual Suspects" although there are sometimes a few unusual ones too.
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@Trsnrtr, I love a good exploded isometric assembly drawing. In my youth, I trained as a board draftsman, and would have to do them by hand. Where CAD makes them much easier, they lose the artistry of a well done hand drawn assembly.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Ok, how about I forgot all about oiling a FG chain and getting your finger too close to the chain wheel while the chain is turning?

I've got a bad blood blister under a nail now and I could have cut the end of my finger off which did happen to a friend of mine back in the 80s while oiling a track bike chain in the stand.
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@Trsnrtr, I love a good exploded isometric assembly drawing. In my youth, I trained as a board draftsman, and would have to do them by hand. Where CAD makes them much easier, they lose the artistry of a well done hand drawn assembly.
I know what you mean. I drafted highway plans for years in ink. I enjoyed it.
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...at the aforementioned handmade bike show, I asked the Rohloff rep about user serviceability in their hubs. He smiled and said it is inadvisable. Fortunately, it appears they require little in the way of servicing.
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Less than 100 parts. Easy, like a transmission job!!!!
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Heading out on the family assault vehicle with two other tandems. It's going to be chilly, 55º and windy, but I anticipate a good ride. Hope to get some pics.
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I visit a dietician once a month as part of diabetes type 2 control which is going great by the way. I'm happy to report that I'm down 5# in the last month and my finger test was 87. 18 months ago, it was averaging 125-128 and was on track for meds.

Everyone in my family of 6 takes meds for diabetes 2 except me. Only riding and diet keep me away from the meds.
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An update from my FB feed relating to events from this past Saturday... it was an eventful weekend, met many new people and learned some new things.

I crashed on my bike and was in the hospital for a few days. It was a bit more serious than I could have imagined given the relatively benign nature of the crash as I remember it. The first most obvious injury was the bump on my head / cracked helmet combined with the fact that I was knocked out. That came out not to be the most serious thing. I had lacerated my kidney and lost a lot of blood. I was transported to shock trauma and received close to 4 units of blood in the process. They operated and decided the kidney was going to heal itself, so I get to keep it... which is nice.

Riding bikes has saved me from alcohol, obesity, high blood pressure, and all that comes with those things.

I will always ride.

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