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Old 02-22-06 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by royale
Hows that guy saying that cyclist should have to pay rego. What a cop out.

Boo Hoo.. You pay tax on your fuel and pay rego for road maintenance... So What!

We have to breath this polluted air and pay taxes that go to help save the environment.

Grrr.
hay cmon, regos a weight tax, so if they want me to pay an equivilent ratio to the few hundred they pay for their 1 tonne car for my 8 kilo road bike, then ill be glad to hand over the 50 cents i owe
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Old 02-22-06 | 08:21 PM
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Rego would be ok as long as the money cyclists pay goes directly to bike related improvements.

I think the governments just chuck all the money into a pile any use it for whatever anyways. Their fuel tax goes to some guys dole check.
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Old 02-22-06 | 08:46 PM
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It's a facetious argument. Many cyclists have vehicles, have a drivers licence, pay rego and pay fuel tax anyway. In any case, state and federal constitiutions do not allow for taxes to be earmarked like that. It all goes into consoldiated revenue.

The problem can be boiled down to this. People who are dickheads loose all sense of time, reason and reality when they get behind the wheel. 'Oh no, that bike rider caused me to scrub 5km/h off my speed and delay me three seconds. I'll kill him or teach him a lesson by scaring or hurting him'. And they are serious. It's a worry.

Driving a car at a group of twenty bike riders and trying to hurt them is far and away a more serious issue than a few bike riders running the odd stop sign.
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Old 02-22-06 | 09:18 PM
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Old 02-22-06 | 09:50 PM
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classic dork shot LOL !!

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Old 02-22-06 | 10:18 PM
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this is what makes hockey a forkin' great game

Canada out without a medal - forkin' hey !!!

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Old 02-22-06 | 10:22 PM
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maybee they are a little rusty after sitting on their collective assos on strike last season.
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Old 02-22-06 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by berny
I've had a thyroid problem for a cupla years.
my mum had a benign enlargement of her thyroid for a bazillion years, and it disappeared when she started eating a small amount of ground flax seed every day

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Old 02-22-06 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by classic1
......I'll kill him or teach him a lesson by scaring or hurting him'. And they are serious. It's a worry. Driving a car at a group of twenty bike riders and trying to hurt them......
The problem is very deep - it's a social sickness. Every night (on TV) children can see realistic re-enactments of people being shot. They are bombarded by news of violence by the media - every hour these days on TV. Shooting another person is essentially the ultimate act of cowardice. You terminate life using a machine designed purposely for that purpose, and from the ultimate position of strength - you cannot be stopped - a simple finger operated switch turns off a life like extinguishing a light.

An entire generation has been made immune to the the reality and consequences of this, and similar actions (many people are scared of needles - 1/10th mm diameter and sharp - oh how pathetic!! - they rarely think of a bullet as a needle, 10mm diameter, blunt, and doing Mach 2!!!!).

How much of a leap does it take to tranfer this into a car - to sit completely enclosed and unassailable in a steel cocoon, a position of absolute power, the decider of life and death, at least for those weaker than you like cyclists. To buzz a cyclist in a car is a demonstration of power - "see, I can kill you or let you live - my choice - and you can't stop me". **** is a crime of power. Assault is a crime of power. Firearm murder is a crime of power. Buzzing cyclists is a crime of power. What they all have in common is that they are done from a position of absolute safety - the coward's position.
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Old 02-23-06 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
hay cmon, regos a weight tax, so if they want me to pay an equivilent ratio to the few hundred they pay for their 1 tonne car for my 8 kilo road bike, then ill be glad to hand over the 50 cents i owe
50 cents or 50,000 dollars, they'd still rant and rage at us. They do it to each other and they all pay rego. There's a lot of anger in the world, most of it in the developed countries which is difficult to understand. I think many feel ripped off and don't know where or how to vent so they take it out on each other and anyone else they can get within intimidation sistance of. We've had it too good for too long me thinks.
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Old 02-23-06 | 02:36 AM
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Im against the rego idea, next would be toll bike paths.
Its obvious the RTA/NSW govt dont know how to look after the state especially in the transport department
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Old 02-23-06 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
woo hoo, after 20 odd minutes in the anerobic hurt box picked up 2nd in C grade at the dirt crits last night. actually thought id won it, but it turns out the guy i overtook was going a lap down and the winner was no where in sight. some great hadle bar to handle bar racing. im still pretty happy, 1st podium and hopefully not the last!
Well done! Nuttin wrong with 2nd. Of course, you're a marked man now.

Anyone else going to DGV on Satdy??

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Old 02-23-06 | 03:16 AM
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Anyone help with a restoration plan, my thoughts so-far....

Re-chrome forks & rear-stay
Paint frame & lugs (original colour, contrasting lugs)
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Old 02-23-06 | 09:32 AM
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Damo, do you commute/ride in CT ? I used to do it in NJ and Sydney (and Australia) seems no worse, in fact, probably better because commuters on bikes in NJ were such low numbers that there is not much consideration for any bike out on the road at all from motorists. These news articles jusy hype it up a bit, make it look horrible but it's not really that bad.
Yeah on occasion.

I've ridden in Vt, Ma, CT, RI and upstate NY and never had real drama at all. I never did ride in NJ though ... might just be a bigger city thing, where I am it's probably a smaller town than Newcastle and I've never ridden in a city as big as Sydney ... and I ride away from it ... my commute takes me away from the city ( I live in the city and work in the burbs )
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Old 02-23-06 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by poopypants
Yeah on occasion.

I've ridden in Vt, Ma, CT, RI and upstate NY and never had real drama at all. I never did ride in NJ though ... might just be a bigger city thing, where I am it's probably a smaller town than Newcastle and I've never ridden in a city as big as Sydney ... and I ride away from it ... my commute takes me away from the city ( I live in the city and work in the burbs )
yeah, well you'd probably hate Sydney riding then, compared to suburban CT it would be a menace. You live in the city and work in the burbs, that's strange, but lucky if you go against all the traffic every day. What part of CT ?
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Old 02-23-06 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Anyone help with a restoration plan, my thoughts so-far....

Re-chrome forks & rear-stay
Paint frame & lugs (original colour, contrasting lugs)
Brooks seat
New bar tape
Dura-ace EX brake levers with tan hoods (ebay)
Dura-ace brakes (modern)
Re-lace wheels (replace spokes)
Tyres

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Dura-ace EX seatpost
Chris King headset
we need to see it !
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Old 02-23-06 | 03:44 PM
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On the wat to work today I spotted a man in joggers, what appeared to be king gee shorts and a tee, and an old helmet riding along on a brand new black C50, fully deck ed out.

Then a woman in all red assos, top, shorts, gloves & socks with joggers on riding along on a carbon fibre giant, with a mountian bike riser bar set-up.

Eastern Suburb madness.

Sold a bunch of old bike bits on ebay this week and made $1200, here comes track bike.
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Old 02-23-06 | 03:59 PM
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Sold a bunch of old bike bits on ebay this week and made $1200, here comes track bike.
Very cool.
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Old 02-23-06 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by was_bmxer
On the wat to work today I spotted a man in joggers, what appeared to be king gee shorts and a tee, and an old helmet riding along on a brand new black C50, fully deck ed out.

Then a woman in all red assos, top, shorts, gloves & socks with joggers on riding along on a carbon fibre giant, with a mountian bike riser bar set-up.

Eastern Suburb madness.

Sold a bunch of old bike bits on ebay this week and made $1200, here comes track bike.
the king gees, classic !!!
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Old 02-23-06 | 05:21 PM
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I'm wearing my King Gees today, but not doing any riding. A couple more weeks, a couple thousand dollars, and I'll have my bikes here...
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Old 02-23-06 | 06:27 PM
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You guys should not be reading the Sydney Morning Herald. Next you'll be quoting Alan Jones as some pillar of wisdom.

Bottom line - we're the most over, taxed over regulated western nation in the world, and taxes and levies just go into one big coffer. Your rego does not pay for roadworks. The government decided how much it's going to spend on roadworks depending on how much we whinge about potholes.

That is all.

God people are stupid.
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Old 02-23-06 | 06:38 PM
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Go Tiger!

Everyone cross your fingers for us. We're trying to get into a 5 bedroom 2 bath home. Repayment is about $600/month. And taxes are lower here too.
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Old 02-23-06 | 07:10 PM
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Go Tiger!

Everyone cross your fingers for us. We're trying to get into a 5 bedroom 2 bath home. Repayment is about $600/month. And taxes are lower here too.
very nice, but do you have beach volleyball there ?
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Old 02-23-06 | 07:16 PM
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Go Tiger!

Everyone cross your fingers for us. We're trying to get into a 5 bedroom 2 bath home. Repayment is about $600/month. And taxes are lower here too.
and what about the garage? How many cars side by side with all doors open?
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Old 02-23-06 | 07:43 PM
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Where is this? Utah? Is that one bedroom for each wife?
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