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Old 03-02-06 | 07:35 PM
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well it takes me a good 6 hours to get to LAX anyways, so the time difference wasnt that much, plus i would have gone coach if I was paying. With the Points I was in Prestige Class on KAL. Got to take a shower in Incheon as well, that was nice.

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Old 03-02-06 | 07:44 PM
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did a 2 X 8 minute lactate threshold test last night, and got a result of 174 both times. last month i got a result of 172 both times. is that an improvement or has it gotten worse? or is the difference to little to care?
Hard to say HDT, without knowing exactly how you're doing them.

Lactate Threshold Revision:
Training results in a decrease in lactate production at any given exercise intensity. Untrained individuals usually reach the LT at about 60% of VO2 max. With training, LT can increase from 60% to above 70% or even higher. The lactate threshold is both responsive to training and influenced by genetics. Stolen from some website on the net somewhere

So you are trying to detect that decrease in lactate production. Not possible for a guy on a bike armed only with an HRM.

What you can measure are things like average speed (or distance covered). If you know your maxHR you can run the tests at a taxing HR (say 85% or 90%) and look for an improvement in average speed or distance covered, or if you have a set course distance look for an improvement in the time taken to complete the course.

Two things to remember tho. You have to get up to your target HR rapidly from rest, so a steepish 50-100m hill is a good place to start. And you have to stay within +/-5 bpm of your target HR, otherwise the results will be flawed. If you have an HRM with download function you can check out the pretty graphs to validate you runs.
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Old 03-02-06 | 07:58 PM
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We flew ANZ for AU$1250 with the short stop in Auckland for a beer. That was about 17 hours all up. It was about the same price for the dog, with the vet and AQIS, it came to around $1500. And that's not return.

Hey, am I the only one that had to scrape ice off their car windows yesterday?
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:00 PM
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Hey, am I the only one that had to scrape ice off their car windows yesterday?
It's getting preety chilly here too expat: 19C yesterday morning. Brrrrrrrr
ROFLMAO
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:07 PM
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Smart arse. I should take a photo of me standing in the snow with my parka and my guns. I'm American again.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jock
It's getting preety chilly here too expat: 19C yesterday morning. Brrrrrrrr
ROFLMAO

I put on arm warmers this morning.... what a mistake.

Stayed on for about 5 mins.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:09 PM
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HDTV, 2 bpm over a 1 month period in differing conditions and non-exact testing is nothing, insignificant.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Smart arse. I should take a photo of me standing in the snow with my parka and my guns. I'm American again.

Is a fluro orange parka? Can you get the photo standing beside a F series truck with a deer dripping blood strapped to the bonnet?
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:11 PM
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Expat I'm sure has wireless internet access in his tree stand, maybe he could beam us live pics of the hunt ?
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Smart arse. I should take a photo of me standing in the snow with my parka and my guns. I'm American again.
dont forget the obligatory flag hanging from the porch and Chev Silverado in the background
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Smart arse. I should take a photo of me standing in the snow with my parka and my guns. I'm American again.
:ROFLMAO:

Yeeee-Haaaaa

Watch out for billionaire quail hunters!
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:15 PM
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It's a snowboarding parka, so it's not orange. No Fords for me. I have my Scion xB, which has been nicknamed the xBox. My wife called it the "icebox" yesterday morning. Climbo, I know you're joking, but I won't be doing any hunting either. Dang, I guess I'm not a proper American.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:16 PM
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HDTV, 2 bpm over a 1 month period in differing conditions and non-exact testing is nothing, insignificant.
groovy. i figured as much. to give jock a little background on what the conditions were: this was done on a stationary trainer , as it normally is. did a 10 min warm up, some short sprints etc. rested for 2 mins, then brought the HR up 150 or so. gearing was 53:15, in the hardest trainer setting. started timer on polar, went as hard as possible for 8 minutes, stopped timer, spun for 10 mins, with a couple of smaller sprints, then repeat.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
It's a snowboarding parka, so it's not orange. No Fords for me. I have my Scion xB, which has been nicknamed the xBox. My wife called it the "icebox" yesterday morning. Climbo, I know you're joking, but I won't be doing any hunting either. Dang, I guess I'm not a proper American.

I have vivid memories of those hunters in a servo somewhere around Steamboat, Vail, Summit county in CO.

Actually I remember there is a town there called "Rifle", town center is called "Shotgun square"
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:19 PM
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here's that Utah weather chart again.

A balmy 7 degrees C in SLC. That's actually not too bad

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/forecast...=RWR&version=0
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:20 PM
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By the way, you can get a beer in most restaurants here, as well as grocery stores and servos. Hard alcohol has to be bought at a state liquor store, or smuggled in from another state. And Las Vegas is only a 5 hour drive away...
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
here's that Utah weather chart again.

A balmy 7 degrees C in SLC. That's actually not too bad

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/forecast...=RWR&version=0
In all fairness, my post code is now 84097, and we're in Orem.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:25 PM
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In all fairness, my post code is now 84097, and we're in Orem.
i can see this becomming the newest Aaron Spelling Drama... " Repat: 84097 " now, wheres Brenda?
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:29 PM
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when in NJ me and a few mates were doing a cyclo-cross training ride through some dirt trails, we rode in to a shooting zone, it was Turkey season that week. Trucks everywhere, we rode through, guns going off, blokes with turkeys over the shoulder going back to the trucks and everything. One bloke looked at us funny and asked what we were doing out there, we explained, and then he looked at us and said "don't worry about gettin' shot boys, those skinny legs you got are no good for eatin"... we rode out butts off to get out the other side of the park.
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
here's that Utah weather chart again.

A balmy 7 degrees C in SLC. That's actually not too bad
It's not even that cold in Tassie. 32 degrees here right now. Did I mention I work at a University, and it's 'O' Week
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:49 PM
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It's not even that cold in Tassie. 32 degrees here right now. Did I mention I work at a University, and it's 'O' Week
Now that's a great combination
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Old 03-02-06 | 08:55 PM
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Smoothie, pick a nice day and do the coastal walk along the beaches there, take your budgies and go for a swim at Tamarama.
Don't go giving advice like that climbo without warning him about the rips and the poofs. Or is that the point?
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Old 03-02-06 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
this was done on a stationary trainer, as it normally is. did a 10 min warm up, some short sprints etc. rested for 2 mins, then brought the HR up 150 or so. gearing was 53:15, in the hardest trainer setting. started timer on polar, went as hard as possible for 8 minutes, stopped timer, spun for 10 mins, with a couple of smaller sprints, then repeat.
So what's the figure of 174bpm? The average HR for the eight mins?

Hmmmmm.... let me get my slide rule to work. 174....pi()...radians...hypotenuse...2....cosmological constant....pinch salt....

YUP: climbo is right, not significant.

Let me be rude for a minute and suggest that your test is flawed. I'm not really sure what you're measuring using the 'flat out' method. You need a constant. If you want to measure progress you'll need to compare distance covered at a fixed HR as described prev.
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Old 03-02-06 | 09:10 PM
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how do you use threshold in your training?

my training is very hi-tech: hard/long days, then easy/short days

I've been doing at least 450km for most weeks so far this year

I usually work around how my legs feel (my HR monitor tells me if my legs are fresh),
and the weather
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Old 03-02-06 | 09:16 PM
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Hey 531, you should go and play in the hills sometimes as a hard session and stop just following Kathy Watt up and down Beach Rd.

(edit) 450km a week That's more than I've done this year I reckon. Very much a part time effort from me!
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