what the hell is a moth infection??
:o

its a crap way of spelling mouth.

I was going to get tech and try to describe it properly. But I thought I would stuff the spelling up too much. Turns out I should have had a go at it anyway, I stuffed up on the easy stuff.

Yeah jock, go the hail damage thighs.

Odin, building wheels the way you want is the way to go. None of this 16 spoke crap, just get good solid and reasonably light wheels with 28/32 spokes. Proper hand built wheels that will stay true and not break spokes every week.

Is there anywhere that does wheel building tutorials? Seems like it is probably a good skill to have.

google it

yeah well, you live and learn, to leave them alone eventually...

you must be getting old bloke - the way they react is where the humour is. just keep it bubbling along for days of free entertainment. :)

But I wouldn't want them to think I'm some kind of ****-stirrer or anything. :lol:

Anyway, I called Sacha White up and we had a chat. He said '******s ride your bikes wearing 200 buck capri pants!" I replied "So.....SO....that's NOTHIN! ******s ride YOUR bikes wearing 220 buck capri pants! HA!"

Well, not quite, but we're on the same page and everything's roses. He's actually quite a nice fella and we shared more similar principles than I imagined.

now isn't that nice ! :)

did you just self moderate dude, or has "the finger of death" (aka brian aka "he's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy") been snooping around again :D

I pulled the plug. Contemplated sending the Aussie lads over to bash heads but then I got all chivalrous.

Just pretend I'm not here. I am.

ooh, lookey. tigger has a new avatar thingy again. it's a battle scene this time

it's a bit dark innit tigger? skull versus little boy

How much would that cost a sucker like me (not that I don't luv my 540's)?

I aint forgetting nothin. According giant (it must all be true cause they say so) I have a Raceface Evolve XC X-type cranks with integrated, outboard bottom bracket which has the advantage of Rigidity/power improved (due to larger bearings, wider spaced bearings, larger diameter axles). So it must be the crappy frame. :p

Wot's he trying to say? He longs for evil Nipponese overlords?

the rule is if you have to ask, you cannot afford it. At that weight, they can't be cheap. :)

Hi Badsac, If you are serious about some new wheels give this guy a call. Greg Ryan @ precision cycles 9525 7552. I cannot say enough good things about Greg and his wheels. He can basicly gat any thing you want and build it up for you. I think he has been the main mech for all the large compaines in the past and been trained by the techies at the factories etc etc. Don't be put off by his calm/slowness oon the phone ( I think he has discovered ten pin bowling & alcohol recently). You have nothing to loose.

Ah no, it's those cranks! I have them, the arms flex so much I can hit the chainstays with them. They're utter sheit. I'm going to replace them with some XT's or if I become magically rich, some Extralight E-Bones. I have a serious crank fetish which I thank my old Syncros Revolution cranks for.

Soul Edge hubs, Open Pro rims, Wheelsmith DB aero AE spokes, Alloy Nips I can do for A$1218. If you want the ceramic bearing Soul hubs, total is A$1411. Weight should be sub 1400g. If you want alternative rims, I'd have to look into it, but the price should be the same for comparable designs. I can also do Zipp 303 and 404's for A$2222 as a very naughty grey import.

Avatar is a still from a Dwarves video clip. My little dig at little Johnny and his immigration policy.

Thanks heaps for that. The few tiems I venture out into the main crap that's this forum I find sploodge all over everything about Mike Garcia and his wheels. Seeing as wheels will be the next thing I get for my bike, I've always been keen to find out if there were any local equivalents I could go with when the time comes. So would he be good at helping a relative noob like myself through the parts selection process, or does he prefer people to already know what they want?

Don;t know about the arms, but I'm just about sawing through my front deraileur when I'm up on the big ring going hard, even in the seat.

That's not to bad is it, in a really fabulously megaexpensive way? I'd end up paying around the same for some Easton or Crysomemore ****e. I'll have to do some googlign to see what it's all like.

The only person on the planet who knows how to build a friggin wheel:rolleyes: . More like the only wheelbuilder with his own website.

You have to understand that the reason prebuilt wheels became popular is that it took the hassle out of finding a good wheelbuilder. When they're few and far between, you either throw up your hands and just get Ksyriums or get some handbuilts by guys like Mike Garcia or Steve Gravenites or whoever.

Best wheels I ever had built were by a woman called Katie who used to run Bicycle Hospital in Nth Melb but has since retired to the Blue Mountains. However, Petri at Pushi in King Street does a bang up job and I use him for most of my builds.

Did a calc on those wheels. Cross three 32h front and rear, the first build is 1485g, second build with the lighter hubs is 1433. Sub 1400g if you go for funky lacing like radial front, x2/radial rear. Sub 1330g if you then go with lighter rims like the IRD Cadence, or about 1350 with DT RR1.1's.

Ksyrium SSL SLs are 1600-1624g on average.

What sort of dollars are they there days?

word of mouth is a powerful tool.

too true.

whats the consensus on Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL's? they seem to get a good wrap from ppl ive tlaked to ( not all of them own the wheels). for 1350 odd from probike kit they seem like a good deal.

i don't think you can ship wheels from probikekit. freight prohibitive because they exceed standard cubic weight limits. check the website for details on wheels. pretty sure it says UK or europe only