eh, it obviously depends how you do it

If you shoot off the front on your own and try to hold off the whole group for 20 mins, I guarantee your HR will be SOARING!!!

Fortunately I don't have 4k to spend on a frame, aren't a racing idiot, or a 'master framemaker'. I'm a daydreaming Industrial Designer squandering my talents on something stupid like bikes when I probably should be designing supercars or toasters or things you hang from your mobile phone.

Honestly, maybe 5 people on this entire forum NEED something more than a 20lb lugged frame with Chorus. The rest of us will still be fat, slow, genetically non-freaky boffins regardless of what we're riding.

Still, my next roadie will either be Ti or 953!

Man, I haven't bonked or been on the vom-vom train since I was 19. (which was 2 years ago incidently *cough*) Now I'm old and have a perfect solution - Don't ride so hard!

by the way; funny, was the "nonna" remark in regard to Anthony Colpo the other week

and....Futurama is the bigest let down since "After MASH"

'Family Guy', now THAT'S a show, and that 'American Dad' thing ain't bad, neeva.

I don't train in groups, in fact the only time I ride in groups is when I race. I don't think it's wrong though, there's a lot to be learnt from riding in groups.

i reckon the effects of riding with LOADS of adrenalin are underestimated

+1
havtn vomitted but did get that horrible raspy cough and taste of blood after a 12 lap missnout track race

Adrenaline kicks it way up.
When I do hill repeats, it's a fair effort to sustain above LT, but my HR is much higher just cruising in a race.

the only time I've ever felt like chuckin was when i didn't warm up properly; i.e., hardly at all

I wore a HRM once in a motorcycle race. My HR was over 180 just sitting on the grid. That's pure adrenaline.

Post of the year.

(yah I'm still here being the silent seppo ).

marty

Ha, Ha. 20 pounds is heavy for a frame.

Did anyone see the article in todays Hun (Melbourne Herald-Sun for you foreigners)? Big article on Jobie Dajka. He's training again with John Beasley, off the piss and back down to racing weight. No straight jacket or anything! He has almost completed this 'community service' imposed by CA and has done everything asked of him - should get his licence to race back soon.

If you don't have a properly fitted bike, you will not want to ride it. Now if you just want to lean it against a post outside Starbucks, that's a different story.

Maxim, here's another option. Since you're scrabbling around trying to figure it all out, why not go see Steve Hogg at Pedalpushers/Cyclefit in Rosebery. Do lots of research first and walk in with a bucketload of questions and $200 and a couple of hours later you'll walk out with sore legs, lots of answers and a piece of paper telling you what size seat tube, top tube, stem, seat tube angle, seatpost setback, blah blah you really need AND THEN you can go spend 4 grand whereever you want on a new bike that really fits and suits you OR start shopping on ebay and get the same thing near new for half price. And then ride it and love it or sell it again for what you paid for it and get the next thing that takes your fancy.


And that was a great fight. Damn. Congrats Mundine. But didn't the little Filipino get robbed? Anyone else get a giggle from Ahmed's mate with the phone?

Um, maybe because he lives in Melbourne?

*edit* Oh wait, i thought you were talking about existence. Don't listen to me, it's 4am. I'm a zombie.

crikey!!!! WTF are you doing up? I'm the only one allowed up this late

any one watching the Barcelona - Arsenal game ? I have babies that work like alarm clocks, 2 of them in case one stays asleep. Arsenal 1 -0 at half time.

Go Barca

Just a bit stressed at the moment. No biggie.

All those orders... so little time

+1 for Mundine
+1 for Barca
-1 for no sleep (again)

+1 for commuted again today.
+1 for now your life has been changed forever Mr Shaw !

+1 for rode the M2 yesterday
-1 for not riding it today
+1 for getting a bumper combined price on Giro helmets from e-bay.

I probably have 18 months to 2 years before the wife really gives me the hard word about kids. Is that how it worked for you guys? Did you just crack or what?

Never got the hard word. It just sort of happened.

+1, even if it does cost a plane ticket to get there. In any event, I think Steve Hogg has a setup down there in Mexico.

all 3 were unplanned but much loved.

Until now. THey're bloody weekend sports are eating into valuable ride time!!!