The Aussie Thread- Part 4
05-30-06 | 04:03 AM
#6401
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Originally Posted by jock
Sorry ed, was the only place on the net that i could find without any hype. 
Looks to be similar to blackcurrents except high in B12 instead of C. I'd rather eat a vegemite sambo.
Looks to be similar to blackcurrents except high in B12 instead of C. I'd rather eat a vegemite sambo.
Maybe if you use the berry as suppository the B12 will absorb through the bowel into the system quicker.
I went to a fruit farm up near Port Douglas while playing tourist years ago. They had fruit I hadn't seen before or since. Some of it tasted fantastic. I vaguely recall one odd looking thing about the half the size of a Kiwi fruit that the Cocky who owned the joint reckoned contained the equivalent Vitamin C to 100 oranges. They even had about 6 varieties of bananas. The reason we don't see it down south is that it doesn't transport or keep very well.
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05-30-06 | 05:19 AM
#6402
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Originally Posted by classic1
B12? Get Professional you blokes and get your B12 the way nature intended - via syringe!
05-30-06 | 06:52 AM
#6403
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Talking of TV presenters.
There was just a total p1ss take of those channel 7 sunrise presenters on Comedy Inc.
It was actually pretty funny. Usually most of the stuff on those shows is a bit average.
There was just a total p1ss take of those channel 7 sunrise presenters on Comedy Inc.
It was actually pretty funny. Usually most of the stuff on those shows is a bit average.
05-30-06 | 06:56 AM
#6404
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On a different topic, do any of you guys use software to track your training schedule? Like a training diary of some sort.
I had a quick look but couldn't find anything worth using. Any ideas?
I'm probably going to right my own web based one if I can't find anything. Any input as to what it should contain would be awesome.
I had a quick look but couldn't find anything worth using. Any ideas?
I'm probably going to right my own web based one if I can't find anything. Any input as to what it should contain would be awesome.
05-30-06 | 07:52 AM
#6405
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From: well it sure aint Kansas
I remember downloading a free something called TrainingLog? ages ago just to have a look, but it was very basic and I certainly never used it. But then I havent even had a computer on a bike for 13 odd years. The polar stuff looks good for pc users
05-30-06 | 08:20 AM
#6406
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From: Between the mountains and the lake.
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Originally Posted by jock
How's your web-monkey going? Close to something decent yet
05-30-06 | 05:11 PM
#6407
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Originally Posted by existence
i looked into that recently...cycli stats and gigabike are two...fairly poor but give you a good starting point for writing your own which is what im doing now.
What platform are you writing it for? Cross platform, windows, mac, web?
I was going to do a java/mySQL web solution, that way I can access it at work or at home.
What sort of things are you putting in it? I can't think of massive amounts of functionality.
Heres some of the stuff I'm thnking at this stage.
Record: - distance, time, average heart rate, max heart rate, min heart rate, intensity, location, session type (race, train,social), exercise type (cycle, run, walk, yoga etc)
Report: - For a given time, distance, average speed for a particular exercise type
Other variations based on a period and distance, times, heart rates
Have nice calendar interface to schedule training as well as actual training done.
05-30-06 | 05:12 PM
#6408
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From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Bikes: '06 Trek Madone SL 5.2 / '04 Trek 1000
Gotta love Tassie. Ride to work this morning = 1 degree 
05-30-06 | 05:15 PM
#6409
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From: Melbourne
Bikes: Scapin EOS7 sloping, 10v Record, Ksyriums
what the hell is Firefox?? I thought it was a bad Clint Eastwood movie.
05-30-06 | 05:32 PM
#6410
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by royale
On a different topic, do any of you guys use software to track your training schedule? Like a training diary of some sort.
I had a quick look but couldn't find anything worth using. Any ideas?
I'm probably going to right my own web based one if I can't find anything. Any input as to what it should contain would be awesome.
I had a quick look but couldn't find anything worth using. Any ideas?
I'm probably going to right my own web based one if I can't find anything. Any input as to what it should contain would be awesome.
05-30-06 | 05:41 PM
#6411
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Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
+1 on inputting stats into Excel & then not knowing what else to do with them
05-30-06 | 05:42 PM
#6412
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From: In a parallel universe
Anyone here familiar with Trek bikes? What size stem does the Trek 7300 have?
I am asking because a friend of ours wants to change the suspension fork for a rigid fork and has been told by his LBS that it can't be done because of the combination of V-brakes, 700C wheels and stem size.
Asked the question at our LBS and he said that stems commonly come in 1" or 1 1/8" - he was pretty sure Treks had 1 1/8" stems.
Which would mean it is entirely possible to replace the Trek suspension fork with a rigid one because other bikes use the V-brake/700C wheel/1 1/8" stem combo. Unless Treks have some bizarre proprietary setup which means you can't use aftermarket forks.
I am asking because a friend of ours wants to change the suspension fork for a rigid fork and has been told by his LBS that it can't be done because of the combination of V-brakes, 700C wheels and stem size.
Asked the question at our LBS and he said that stems commonly come in 1" or 1 1/8" - he was pretty sure Treks had 1 1/8" stems.
Which would mean it is entirely possible to replace the Trek suspension fork with a rigid one because other bikes use the V-brake/700C wheel/1 1/8" stem combo. Unless Treks have some bizarre proprietary setup which means you can't use aftermarket forks.
05-30-06 | 05:43 PM
#6413
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by Wilchemy
+1 on inputting stats into Excel & then not knowing what else to do with them
05-30-06 | 05:51 PM
#6414
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Originally Posted by matagi
I do graph my weight though.
Excel is made by microsoft so theres no way I'm going down that path.
The advantage of writing your own is you can make it do whatever you want. Theres always the risk of re-inventing the wheel though, if there is already a tool for the job.
05-30-06 | 06:09 PM
#6415
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Originally Posted by matagi
I do graph my weight though.
05-30-06 | 06:23 PM
#6416
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Bloody useles consumer crap. 
Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell
Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell
05-30-06 | 06:28 PM
#6417
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by Thylacine
So how fat are you this week?
Two things you never ask a woman - her age and what she weighs.
05-30-06 | 06:39 PM
#6418
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Originally Posted by jock
Bloody useles consumer crap.
Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell
Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell
I have a polar S210 which has survived many an OTB excursion on the MTB and is still running strong. IMHO its a good, no frills unit.
05-30-06 | 06:56 PM
#6419
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
I use polar, seems pretty good!
05-30-06 | 07:06 PM
#6420
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by royale
Excel is made by microsoft so theres no way I'm going down that path.
According to hubby, there is something called StarOffice made by Sun which he thinks has most of the functionality of Excel but is based on OpenOffice. You might want to have look at that.
If you do decide to write your own - your challenge is to do it in as few lines of code as possible with no redundant loops.
05-30-06 | 07:28 PM
#6421
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Noone uses BASICA anymore matagi
05-30-06 | 07:44 PM
#6422
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by jock
Noone uses BASICA anymore matagi
Hubby only uses Assembler.
05-30-06 | 07:47 PM
#6423
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Why u knock assembler? is good. is fast.
Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame https://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow
Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame https://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow
05-30-06 | 07:50 PM
#6424
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Originally Posted by jock
Why u knock assembler? is good. is fast.
Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame https://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow
Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame https://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow
05-30-06 | 08:49 PM
#6425
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Originally Posted by existence
heres what i do in terms of data acquisition:
1. buy a tanita body composition digital scale (ironman series preferred)
2. use excel if you have too or wite your own script
3. utilize kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm (its the best estimate of power and Kcals ive come across - and ive wasted quite a few hours looking...)
4. go check out fitday.com
5. HMR - Polar
6. Cycle comp - cateye double wireless or anything else that gives the good stuff
ok now i record everything...but my focus is on nutrition and wellbeing NOT max speed lol so i am more inclined to track data such as the following:
in terms of general catergories:
1.training plan schedule
2.training session data
3.cross training session data
4.training route data/composition
5.health data
6.nutritional data
Training Session Data: date,time commenced,route,bike used, distance,time on bike, total duration, avg speed, pace, max speed, avg cadence, max cadence, total calories burnt, calories per/km, calories per/hr, power (watts avg), elevation gain, elevation (metres/hr), HR (avg), HR (max), HR (beats per km), HR (Target Zone 1,2,3,4,5,6), intensity rating (1-10), wellbeing rating (1-10), workout rating (1-10), Wind Factor (1-10), Temperature (Air), Workout Notes.
Health Data: Date, Time, Context (pre-ride, post meal etc), weight, resting HR, bodt Fat %, Visceral Fat Rating, BMR Calories (Base Metabolic Rate), metabolic age, muscle mass, muscle mass rating, bone mass, hydration (Total body water %), blood pressure, general notes.
Nutrition Data: Date, Total Calories, Total Fat (Calories), Fat (Sat), Fat (Poly), Fat (Mono), total carbohydrate (Calories), Fibre (grams), Total Protein (Calories), Total Protein (Grams), Fat % Total Calories, Carbohydrate % Total Calories, Protein % Total Calories.
I also then factor in broad based totals (where applicable) and then total averages of my averages (where applicable).
I havent included everything but thats basically what i like to do...once you get into a routine it really only takes 30 mins out of your day
1. buy a tanita body composition digital scale (ironman series preferred)
2. use excel if you have too or wite your own script
3. utilize kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm (its the best estimate of power and Kcals ive come across - and ive wasted quite a few hours looking...)
4. go check out fitday.com
5. HMR - Polar
6. Cycle comp - cateye double wireless or anything else that gives the good stuff
ok now i record everything...but my focus is on nutrition and wellbeing NOT max speed lol so i am more inclined to track data such as the following:
in terms of general catergories:
1.training plan schedule
2.training session data
3.cross training session data
4.training route data/composition
5.health data
6.nutritional data
Training Session Data: date,time commenced,route,bike used, distance,time on bike, total duration, avg speed, pace, max speed, avg cadence, max cadence, total calories burnt, calories per/km, calories per/hr, power (watts avg), elevation gain, elevation (metres/hr), HR (avg), HR (max), HR (beats per km), HR (Target Zone 1,2,3,4,5,6), intensity rating (1-10), wellbeing rating (1-10), workout rating (1-10), Wind Factor (1-10), Temperature (Air), Workout Notes.
Health Data: Date, Time, Context (pre-ride, post meal etc), weight, resting HR, bodt Fat %, Visceral Fat Rating, BMR Calories (Base Metabolic Rate), metabolic age, muscle mass, muscle mass rating, bone mass, hydration (Total body water %), blood pressure, general notes.
Nutrition Data: Date, Total Calories, Total Fat (Calories), Fat (Sat), Fat (Poly), Fat (Mono), total carbohydrate (Calories), Fibre (grams), Total Protein (Calories), Total Protein (Grams), Fat % Total Calories, Carbohydrate % Total Calories, Protein % Total Calories.
I also then factor in broad based totals (where applicable) and then total averages of my averages (where applicable).
I havent included everything but thats basically what i like to do...once you get into a routine it really only takes 30 mins out of your day
I'll keep you guys in the loop as I'm pretty new to 'real' training and recording all this stuff.
I've got to buy a new web hosting package, but i'll put in on line so you can take a look.