I use NeoOffice (based in Open Office) on my mac's, and use open office on my linux desktops.

I'll be writing the program using java with a mySQL backend, so I don't actually need a spreadsheet tool.

As for assembler, well, you can have that. The whole point of 3G languages is so you don't have to think like a computer.

Especially good for anyone who likes to rewrite the universe from scratch everytime they start a project. eg. "I need to write to the screen. I'll need to write a driver that handles every possible hardware permutation and configuration for that."

That's just lame and lazy royale

agreed! id go that merckx copy job down the bottom though. mmmm steeel :: drool ::

different internet browser that all these guys reckon is better than Explorer.

Have you checked out the De Rosas at ACR yet?

Ive just finished doing an econometric and quantitative analysis course at uni so I can do some pretty cool forecasting if you want.

Best thing to find in excel is:
go to tools -> add ins --> data analysis
then tools--> data analysis. then play with those tools summary statistics will give mean, mode, range etc.
If you can be bothered to group the data into groups (like weeks) then run summary stats again it'll give variance etc. Then if you want to you could predict future events, like mileage etc. Or in Matagi's case weightloss

on the data logger thing

From the rider's point of view the less recorded the better. There are better things to do in life than waste time filling in endless forms every day.

From a coaches point of view the rider needs to record enough detail to assess progress against programmed targets, and detect problems (eg. fatigue, low moral, etc.)

Here's what I would record:

Coach's Target Bands:
------------------------
Target Mileage (+/-10%)
Target HR Zone
Target Ride Duration (+/-10%)

Waking State
--------------
Hours of Sleep
Waking HR
Waking Mental State (Lethargic, Tired, Normal, Agitated, Hyped Up)
Waking Weight
Illnesses/Injuries

Ride Information
-------------------
Start Time
Route Description
Actual Mileage
Avg HR
Max HR
End Time
Actual Ride Duration
Riding State (Sick, Sore, Glum, Tired, Normal, Agitated, Angry, Hyped Up)
Ride Conditions (eg. Very Hot, Humid, Fine)

Nutrition
--------------
Pre-Ride Fluids
Pre-Ride Meal
Ride Fluid Intake
Ride Food Intake
Post-Ride Drink
Post-Ride Meal
Intake Notes
Post Ride Weight

All of this info can be used as pointers along the training program path, for example:

If the recorded ride info consistently deviates from the coach's target bands then the training plan or rider attitude need to be adjusted.

If the waking state info points to performance hindering illness, injury, fatigue, or mental state then it's time to consider a break from the set training program

If the waking weight rises over time and bulk is not desirable then either the diet needs adjustment or strength training needs to be curtailed.

The nutrition info is a historical record of what works and what doesn't (eg. unripe bananas give me stomach cramps) for race planning.

... and so on



So there's no point just mindlessly recording this stuff. You need to know how to use it to adapt your training routine as well. A coach is able to look at all the info coming in and assemble it like a jigsaw puzzle into meaningful performance indicators. That's how your next week's or month's program get's set. It can protect you from both under-achieving and making yourself sick from overdoing it.

What are you programming for? A bludy ZX-80 or something?


BTW, did you lot read this article? How good does that sound? (Look how fat the farkers are as well. )

A-ha.


I thought there it was Explorer or nothing.

Wow, I was just induced into a coma by The Aussie Thread. That's a first!

<-- hands thylo a beer (for medicinal purposes)

Doesn't take much to stimulate you then.

Jock, I've got a basic Sports Instruments HR that I haven't broken after 3 years of constant use. All I've had to do is replace transmitter batteries. I believe SI are owned by Blackburn now, so I don't know what brand name they are releasing their products as now.

Write it in C# I'm three days into a OO Analysis and Design using UML course, and having fun with developing a whole new mindset for software development. I'll be more confused than ever

Hmmmmm.

Well actually there is a lot of code out there written in assembler. The reason I know, and write, in assembler is because my profession is maintaining a mainframe operating system that is written in assembler. That is Z/OS and it runs the largest of the IBM Z/Series mainframes. It used to be called MVS or OS/VS2.

There are things that simply can't be done in anything other than assembler.

I agree that "normal" people don't really need to write in lower level languages, but for those of us that know them, we actually enjoy it. Sick huh?

Phil.

Hang on there! I'll wake you up! (attaches electrodes to Thylo's dangly bits)

I've been using a Sigma Fitwatch HRM fer the last 2 years without it missing a beat
Cost me about $60 and it does everything I need. A mate bought one too and loves it. Cheap, and does the job.

Blurb:

# training manager for optimal evaluation and control of your training
# Pulse menu with 7 functions
# display of training time, maximum heart rate, average heart rate, calorie consumption
# automatic training zones for determination of individual optimal values
# 3 zone alarm and zone Indicator
# time menu with 10 functions
# save menu with 7 memory slots
# setting for type of sport
# ftnesstest
# autostart function
# adjustable contrast
# simple multilingual menu (German, English, French, Italian, Spanish)
# water resistant up to 3m (not suitable for salt water)

how sweet is google maps when your using the uni's net connection?
Maps load instantly

MS is evil. Keep clear of C# and dot net.
Use java or some other cross platform language.

Java is unstable. Didn't you see that earthquake and volcanic eruption the other night?

Noop everything you sed was spot on. All i meant with the rider filling out forms thing was that compared to a 2 hour intervals session filling in the forms can be a bit of a chore for some people.

Another thing is you need to make sure that riders avoid 'cheating' when filling in their ride diaries. It's like golf, you can write down any score you like but you'll always know the truth. And your coach will work it out pretty quickly too and lose interest.

Is that what you call them, 'electrodes'? They look remarkably like hands to me, are you sure they're not hands?



Please fellas, no more code writing talk. Yer farken boring the sh¡t outta me. Seriously. Although the 'unstable Java' quip I have to confess was quite funny.

Ooright, that's the production drawings for Ti frame number 1 done. One down....one to go....

against thylo's wishes, I am gonna jump in as a java hater, its a bloated piece of crap, **** cross platform compatability.

I have no firm loves or hates for programming languages. The OO environment at work is mostly Jade and some VC++. The rest of the stuff we do at work is in an old fashioned 3GL just slightly up the food chain from COBOL.

I just hate using vi on the Unix and Linux systems I support.

Only if you prefer iceblocks.