Hour of pain nuthin. My mate took me out in horizontal rain round loch lomond on Sunday for 5 hours. I reckon ~30miles uphill!
Bike for sale!

She doesn't ride

Got mine in the letter box on Wednesday. "Biggest issue ever"

you're not missing much, only been 25 and sunny every day.

My wife is now the proud owner of a Felt Sector 24 BMX cruiser. What woman wouldn't want one?

My mum's away on holidays with her sisters, so her pressy will have to wait. At home we don't do the Mothers Day/Fathers Day thing because our birthdays fall near or on the day. We let the kids do brekky instead. Runny poaches eggs on vegemite crumpets, cocoa pops, and that kinda thing. The kids get a kick out of it, and its nice to be able to lie in the extra hour or two that it takes them to get organised!

And for all of you 180mm crank arm afficionado's, here's an excerpt from this week's RBR newsletter:

One rule of thumb says this about matching crank length to leg length:

---Inseam to 31 inches, use 170-mm crankarms
---Inseam 31 or 32 inches, use 172.5-mm crankarms
---Inseam 33 inches more, use 175-mm crankarms

You'll also hear recommendations to use longer cranks to increase power. Does that work? We're sharing Dr. Baker's answer from Bike Fit in this week's eBook excerpt.

CRANKARM LENGTH

There has been much debate, considerable empiric evidence, and little convincing scientific study to support the above length recommendations.

Track riders generally choose crankarms up to 5 mm shorter and mountain bikers up to 5 mm longer than the above recommendations.

Shorter crankarms allow for faster cadences and improve cornering clearance on
velodromes and in criteriums.

Although longer crankarms have been favored for hard steady efforts such as time trialing, hill climbing and mountain biking, studies have shown that they change torque, not power -- they require the rider to pedal a larger circle.

In time trialing in an aerodynamic position, longer crankarms mean that the rider closes the hip angle, reducing power.

(Tip! The length of most crankarms is stamped on the back.)


I've got the Arnie Baker "Bike Fit" e-book and it's a bloody good read. Covers all elements of bike fit (not just simple sizing formulas). Get it from RBR.

It loks like the feed will be coming from OLN. They only pick up the stages after everything has settled down, even the TT's

[edit] But you still get to play Phil and Paul Bingo!!

Thanks for the info, Munchie. I've got 180mm cranks on the BMX, and have no problems for the 15 seconds I turn them out of each 45 second race. By the way, I owe you $2. Or I'll give you another patch kit next time I see you.

I got a better idea. Head round the corner to the Marcus O'Lorn and buy yourself a beer with it cheers

what's RBR ?

A duathlon? Run-Bike-Run??

Jonno Hall was fairly good at these.

Hey, this isn't the quiz thread!

RBR = www.roadbikerider.com

pooor old quiz thread is in more trouble than The X-Factor.....

ROFLMAO. Bloody quiz thread was more trubble than it was worth.

Bloody google kept winning. And some bloke with behind the scenes knowledge from yesteryear.

back to reality..... 531 mentioned a while ago that he wanted to use the same length / type crank arms hence buying a new Dura - ace crank set. a little off topic, but is there a school of thought that says you should run similar / same crank lengths on mountain bikes as you do on your training roadie? or is it that the differn't terrain types and style of riding facilitate needing different crank lengths?

I would say longer off road. More leverage required and less spinning.

General rule of thumb is higher the cadence, shorter the crank.

which means they cut out the ads? I hope so.

Road and MTB I ride the same. I already run 175's on the road and MTB, wouldn't go any bigger. Pedal clearance is an issue off road also, plus, extra leverage is good on climbs but lots of MTB riding is done in a spinning type style also.

Plenty of SS MTB'ers seem to like the 180 MTB cranks but they cannot spin fast RPM's up a hill, it's all about leverage there.

Yeah the vision keeps coming, but the commentary usually stops during the ad breaks. There will be SBS commercial breaks as well, and no doubt the SBS commentators will wanna show their prowess before throwing back to the experts

Nothing funnier than Andrew Orsatti or Tomalaris commentating cycling.


Except maybe Tim Webster.

There's nothing funny (or indeed useful) about SBS cycling commentary at 2:00am

I've noticed even Phil has mistaken Quick Step for Discovery from helicopter shots this year. The old peepers aren't what they used to be....

Don't tell me he's falling for the LA hype as well

bikeforums.com will be a ghost town this time next year...