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Alright, that was way to effing serious. We need more goofy Greeks.
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It seems to me that you don't know any hard-core addicts. The only difference is this one is rich and famous. The poor and unknown act the same way. You can take away all of their money and their freedom and it won't necessarily change their behavior in the long-run. They have to make that journey themselves.
Yes I agree with what you are saying but finish the thought. The only thing an addict can change is their behavior. they have to hit bottom, however you want to describe it. Thats when you see the change. Every addict that has recovered has been there they all say enabling does nothing. If you make it comfortable for them where is the incentive to recover or break the cycle. I aint sayin its easy. It aint. Or pretty.
The other side is, well,if she is either going to make it on her own or not, at least recoup some of the costs for all the court, police dept and legal time she costs whatever county. In the long run it wont matter either way. right.
I mean if it becomes a hardship and she wakes up because it pisses her off or whatever. great win
If she makes other arrangements to keep her and the public at large safe from her coke/alchole binge drinking and driving. win.
If she does croak herself due to her bad habbits and failure to gain control at least she paid her way, not joe public. again win.
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Hey, I bet now that he's slimmed down, he's quite the mountain goat.
Right, I agree. what are those people doing for her? What have they done for her in the past? Getting her off the hook isnt the answer. They have done that to death already. She needs to pay for her actions just like anyone else. thats when she will hit the bottom, thats whaen recovery starts. But that doesnt mean that she will recover either. Some never do you know.
Its not really about the money. It is about doing something to her that will get her attention. Money, is her gage to her status, Perhaps if her behavior effects it in a negative fasion then she will find it within herself to make a change.
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Right, I agree. what are those people doing for her? What have they done for her in the past? Getting her off the hook isnt the answer. They have done that to death already. She needs to pay for her actions just like anyone else. thats when she will hit the bottom, thats whaen recovery starts. But that doesnt mean that she will recover either. Some never do you know.
Its not really about the money. It is about doing something to her that will get her attention. Money, is her gage to her status, Perhaps if her behavior effects it in a negative fasion then she will find it within herself to make a change.
Its not really about the money. It is about doing something to her that will get her attention. Money, is her gage to her status, Perhaps if her behavior effects it in a negative fasion then she will find it within herself to make a change.
Yep she did. but where is that picture of whats her name from star wars. how did she do? She is still alive but what a train wreck. Who knows what brought about the change in Drew, only she can say. and its different for every addict.
Very few addicts just wake up one day and say " well ok I am done with that now ,I will be a positive part of society" without some kind of turning point.
Very few addicts just wake up one day and say " well ok I am done with that now ,I will be a positive part of society" without some kind of turning point.
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This is the addiction thread after all.
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Pcad,
How's your new Prius going to get up Mt Doom in the snow? Those things suck mightily in poor weather conditions. Snow tires? That's a pain.
How's your new Prius going to get up Mt Doom in the snow? Those things suck mightily in poor weather conditions. Snow tires? That's a pain.
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Snow tires will kill the gas savings of that thing.
Pcad should heed my advice, and go for the Hybrid Highlander.
Pcad should heed my advice, and go for the Hybrid Highlander.
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Listen pcad, I want to disengage from this discusion of the Lohan tragedy. Our opinions of how to handle her are vastly different. Sorry, I had no idea you were a fan/friend of hers. I do care, just as much as I care about any other human being with this problem.
This is the addiction thread after all.
Peace.
This is the addiction thread after all.
Peace.
Yet.
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