Can anyone kindly point me towards a source for burgundy/wine-red cable housing and bar tape?

Thanks.

Well, I know Benotto Cello tape comes in burgundy. It's often available on eBay. Casiraghi used to make a ruby-colored housing. But that's not quite burgundy, of course.

I don't recall ever seeing burgundy cable housing, but strange stuff turns up on ebay. I got a bunch of lavender color there for some reason, I guess just because it was so odd.

You could always dye your own cotton tape. A source for cable housing that color might take some looking. I think I've heard of someone using a special plastic paint (or a surface prep at least) for housing. No idea how durable that would be.

https://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='1522-07' May or may not be what you want

How much do you need? I have a couple of lengths of good used burgundy color cable housing. I saved it because it was such a great color. The long cable is probably 110cm or maybe a little longer and the shorter length is 40-50cm.

I have some, too, from a burgundy Shogun. You're welcome to it for shipping.
2 brake housings, 2 short shifter housings (stem to cable stop) and one RD housing.
No bar tape.

PM sent......

Thanks, Robbie.

PM sent........

Wow - what a good group this is! I'm inspired:

Anyone have old orange cable housing? I'm trying to build a Ciocc the colors of the early Russian space program. No reason other than I think it'd look sweet.

Jebensch, didn't we swap something once?

You could try Va Tech biking groups. They love that orange stuff. "Hokie bikes" are the best use of burgundy throwaway frames, from what I'm told. They are unabashed fans up there.

I also need to apologize to afilado, because another BF hit me on email about the cable housings about 10 nanoseconds after I mentioned them. I have no way of holding stuff, so I went with FC/FS. Does anyone know a better way?

I'll lay it out for BF folks.... Is there an etiquette I should follow when this happens? Is it the first PM or the first person to contact you? I didn't really intend to leave afilado without cables, but I was the second guy to respond to his query (Noah Scape was first), and I committed to the guy on email before I went back to BF. Should I have done that?

I want to do things right, and I'm an ex-Marine. Sometimes, we get confused.

Well, I'll weigh in here.

I sent you a private followup message but since you asked the public question, I'll publicly share the essence of my reply.

It seems to me that your direct reply to my appeal implied an "exclusive" opportunity for me for a reasonable period. I replied positively in less than 24 hours and found the door closed.

That seems contrary to your original offer, since you said nothing in that initial response about it being a broadcast offer - it was to me alone. No mention of other qualifiers or "first come, first served" basis. Otherwise why attach your answer to my exclusive question?

In my estimation, you and the other party both seem in violation - however innocent, inadvertent, unmindful, etc., your action was - of the spirit of fairness and helpfulness that prevails here.

In the overall scheme of things, it's a small matter and should only serve to fine tune the C&V protocol of courtesy. I bear no ill will and sincerely hope that some of the "greybeards" (apologies to East Hill and other ladies) - will give us the benefit of their thinking on the matter.

Momentarily, I will consider myself forewarned in future dealings with you.

I hope that none of my words offend anyone and will look forward to being enlightened. I want nothing more than to be a good citizen here. I hope you feel the same.

Peace.

Hmmm. My take on this is that when I read the series of posts, I was under the impression that you had contacted Noah Scape, and had gotten the cable from him. Robbie also made an offer, but was under the impression that you would get the cable first from NS.

My take is that if one member offers something up publicly, and another member sends a PM, then the member sending the PM has first dibs. So, Noah Scape offered you cables, you sent PM, you would be first in line for the cables offered by NS.

In this case, though, Robbie thought that you had gotten the cable already, and someone else contacted him about the cable as well.

I don't think there's been any breach of etiquette here, just a simple misunderstanding. Disappointing, yes, but a misunderstanding nonetheless.

East Hill

A little sticky, but my take on it is this. Robbie offered to Afilado and if I were Robbie I would wait to hear if Afilado said yeah or nay on it before anyone else has a chance at it. I wait for a confirmed yes or no from the person I offered it to first. That is how I see it.

Please allow me to rant. This is similar to how I deal on CL but it seems many others are content to set a meeting time with you for you to come see something in which case you have secured your option to buy. But then someone else emails and wants to come sooner so the seller lets them and sells it to that person and you show up cash in hand and ring the buzzer and the stupid A-hole in their apt.. says "sorry I sold it". You know what go to F^*&ing hell!

End rant.

Caveat: Afilado should determine who has the length he need and take that and allow however the other inquiring member is to take the other set of housing. I think that is in the sharing spirit of C&V.

Thanks, East Hill.

But, how can any actionable assumption be made about the contents of a PM? No one can know what goes on between Noah and me. Actually, I thought I recognized Noah as someone that I had helped in a past transaction.

Business between me and party #1 should have no bearing on my business with party #2.

Or, what happens, for instance, if I want to take advantage of both offers if neither alone is sufficient for my project?

True, both offers were public but both were directed to me, with no broader invitations. Shouldn't undirected public offerings stay in "Trades" or "Marketplace". I see cautions about that regularly. It was my "publicity" that brought the "goodies" to light. ;-)

Appreciations.

This is getting interesting. Noah now informs me of essentially the same thing as Robbie.

I'm scratching my head. How can I be so wrong? LOL.

What is the point of me or anyone asking for such help if snipers intervene. I'm gonna have to rethink this.

Guess my ideas of honor are passe.

Well, I know that if I was offered something by a member (which has happened fairly often), and I respond with a PM, then I would assume that I have the first crack at the item.

But if I see another person later offering the same thing, I would probably not respond to them, because I would want another member to have a similar opportunity to obtain the desired item.

Or, I would respond to the second offer, but suggest that if anyone else had responded, to please allow the other member to have the first crack.

If I wind up with all the desired items, then no one else gets an opportunity to connect with another member, and so further broaden our community.

East Hill

I won't speculate on the nature of the 'sniping' or the communications between the sniper/s and those offering said items, but I will make one observation. It looks like you took 21 hours to respond to either offer. I have to confess that my sense of reality has been so influenced by instantaneous internet communications that when someone doesn't respond to me within a certain time frame, especially in regard to exchanges of goods or other offers, I assume my correspondent is not interested.

Again, I'm not suggesting that is what happened in this case, only offering insight into my own psychology under similar circumstances. In fact, as to my own sense of etiquette, I would have tried contacting you first and then only proceeded with other interested parties if you declined or didn't respond in perhaps another 24 hours (but this may be the real question - how long to wait?).

Your first sentence is the operative one, I think, East Hill.

I would never presume anything about the wishes or intentions of unknown or unrevealed parties.

Broadening the pool is a good idea. It cuts both ways. Give me a chance to be unselfish; first let me at least have the benefit of knowing if there is other interest and of discussing amicable solutions.

As this appears to be unfolding, I will not duplicate this effort in the event of my future needs. How does that encourage broadened involvement?

For me it's not about the $'s. It's about shared standards and a trust in a consistent behavior among strangers trying to become closer in a common activity. Still a hazy area here for me.

Lesson learned.

Afilado, again if I were in the offering situation and someone else PMed me in the mean time I would have then PMed you and waited for a response. I know not everyone is an internet junkie like me so I would have waited for your response to my PM... a reasonable amount of time might be about 48 or perhaps 72hours once I had sent you a PM.

Points taken.

"...certain time frame".....is certainly relative, one person to another, as you point out. And ultimately uncertain, in practical terms.

I'm smiling as I write that some of us - well, me - don't think of 21 hours as excessive or tardy. You know, work, sleep, bosses, mates.......

Maybe "sniping" is too dramatic a word; I was taking license to make a point.

Thanks, JunkYardBike.

Bingo, cyclotoine, I can do business with you.

Got any burgandy tubing? LOL! These other people are "maroons" (groan......and a tip of the hat to Bugs Bunny).

My two cents, take it for what it's worth:

If as Robbietunes said, the person contacted him "10 nanoseconds" after he posted, I think sniping would be a pretty accurate description. I wonder if the same person contacted both Robbietunes and Noah Scape. Regardless of whether or not the sellers should have waited and how long before entertaining other offers, I think it's pretty poor form on the part of the sniper.

It seems to me a more appropriate response would have been to post saying that he or she was looking for some too and if afilado doesn't take it, could you please contact them.

My hero! LOL.

+1!

I have in certain situations contacted a member (not on this forum) about an item he offered to someone else, BUT I always state IF so&so doesn't take the said item, I am interested. I ALSO send a pm to the potential new owner stating the same, that if he/ she doesn't take the item, please let me & the current owner know because I am interested. Just how I try to do things.

Good luck finding the cable housing!
Chris