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Originally Posted by YellowFixedGear
I second that motion.
PS. I think the wife is letting me keep my vintage :) |
Originally Posted by monkey
Naz, you bringin' that piece of dogsh*t out tomorrow? Nice rides Schloe_mo.
Nice wheelset, way better than the junk you had previously ;) . Still looking for a 50cm frame for my girl. |
Originally Posted by monkey
Naz, you bringin' that piece of dogsh*t out tomorrow? Nice rides Schloe_mo.
Nice wheelset, way better than the junk you had previously ;) . Still looking for a 50cm frame for my girl. and the bridgestone was a Working Bikes purchase.. they've got lots of good candidates for 50cm "time-to-get-the-lady-hooked-on-biking" frames. before i built that, she scorned my bikeforums lurking.. now, it's research! |
Originally Posted by teadoggg
uh-oh... is that why you're going to working bike? I too am looking for a 50cm for the lady.
It's just too small for her. |
Originally Posted by wangster
As much as I love my 3rensho, I think paying 700 for a used frame, japanese or italian is just ridiculous. It seems that people that are willing and able to pay that kind of cash just isn't doing it for the right reason. I had a choice of getting either a 3rensho with or without a slight ding, guess which one I went with. The 700 no ding one was bought right after mine and built up by the shop. That's a stupid price to pay for a keirin frame, even with shipping, e-framebank frames don't cost 700.
my uncle lives in japan and im trying to see what he can do about sending me a few. its crazy how you can get one there for around 100 bucks |
Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
holla! how did you swing it?
ive been riding it every day since ive gotten it and told her I don't want to part with it. I want to get another wheelset for city riding insted of riding on a set of tubulars. ************************************************************************** when I put the bike up for sale i got some funny emails. . Here is a little humor for you guys. (this is the email) I know you said you preferred no emails, sorry, but i wanted to avoid an awkward rejection phone call. But, I would love to see the bike, i'm pretty tall, but like a relatively shorter frame for me, and have been looking for a fixed gear. But, I know this email may be fruitless, but something to try. Your asking price of 650 sounds pretty reasonable for the bike, but i wanted to waste a minute of your time by making a horribly low-ball offer. I can pay 250 for the bike, so if for some reason you want to drop down your price to help out a poor student/cyclist, I’d really appreciate it. I would pick it anywhere anytime, (i live in Chinatown) if that sweetens a sour deal. But, if not, I’d obviously understand. best of luck with the bike, and apartment. Thanks a lot for reading. You can reach me here ***@nyu.edu or by phone at 847 555 0015. Thanks again. Ted Nutsack (the name, # and email has been changed to protect the ********.) :P |
nice... love some of these people on CL, things are either a rip off of not worth it. You should tell him he can have the seatpost for $250. 10 for the seatpost and 240 for making you waste your time reading that email. I'm glad the wifey is letting you keep the new ride, I'll be on a look out for a yellow bike. You ever think about coming out fro PP races?
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yea.. im around. I ride pretty much every day. Im alway at work at the tattoo shop. Id love to come out for a race sometime. Ive ridden the velodrome but never raced.. I gotta get out more
Yoshi has mentioned to me about comming out for the PP races. .maybe soon. |
Originally Posted by luckycat
Cool thing about the Japanese stuff is that they still make things like lugged steel frames that the Italians consider pretty much obsolete these days.
Lugged steel IS obsolete, even if tons of people still think it's pretty; myself not included. I'd much rather have a thick wall, stiff as hell, non-heavy, alloy frame thanks. Even nicer with front and rear carbon forks. |
Originally Posted by luckycat
No? The people who built your bike do. Most of those guys learned their craft from Italians. For instance, Nagasawa apprenticed with Sante Pogliaghi. And Yoshi Konno of 3Rensho learned by studying Cinelli frames. Parts as well, nitto basically made direct copies of the Cinelli bars/stems/etc... Sugino/Campy, and so on.
Cool thing about the Japanese stuff is that they still make things like lugged steel frames that the Italians consider pretty much obsolete these days. |
Originally Posted by the Repeater
The Japanese have niche fanaticisms with everything that is antiquated and NOT their culture.
Lugged steel IS obsolete, even if tons of people still think it's pretty; myself not included. I'd much rather have a thick wall, stiff as hell, non-heavy, alloy frame thanks. Even nicer with front and rear carbon forks. I won't hate on new materials because I think they have useful purposes, but I would hardly say steel (lugged or otherwise) is obsolete. SOS. |
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Are you implying that bicycles aren't part of Japanese culture? That seems pretty ludicrous given that the Japanese have a continuous history of cycling going back to the original bike boom of the 1890s. I don't know what the first Japanese bike company was, but I know Fuji goes back to 1899. Good enough for me.
What do you mean by obsolete? Are you saying obsolete for racing? If that's the case, then yeah, you're probably right. There are better racing materials and construction, at least if you're a sponsored rider--for the out-of-pocket racer, something that can take some abuse may be more desireable. On the other hand I just like to ride my bike and I like value. A nice lightweight steel bike gives me a ride comparable to what your stiff aluminum frame with carbon fork and chainstays offers, but for less money. Maybe it weighs a pound more, but then maybe I'm carrying a pound of water, a pound of food, and a pound of book to read when I take a little break. I won't hate on new materials because I think they have useful purposes, but I would hardly say steel (lugged or otherwise) is obsolete. SOS. |
Reposting my ride - deleted my original post by mistake. On the topic of Keirin hatred, I can tell you I got my frame for less than the cost of a Surly Steamroller or Soma. I like the lugs.
A whole load of photos can be seen at Yanagisawa - a photoset on Flickr http://static.flickr.com/29/43134763_e6f818e9a9_o.jpg http://static.flickr.com/29/43134704_aadc9c2852.jpg Pictured: The new bike build. Keirin frame by Yanagisawa, straight outta Tokyo, Japan. Almost all other parts courtesy of eBay and Trackstar, NYC (including labor - many thanks for all the help these fine people gave me). Note: Have changed handlebar setup since photo snapped. For the obsessed: 49.5cm Yanagisawa Keirin Track Frame (51cm top tube) 39cm Nitto Drops (1 inch chopped on each end) Champ Grips (yellow) Selle Italia White Flite Titanium Saddle Generic Seatpost Sugino 75 Cranks - 165mm Sylvan MKS Pedals white EAI straps, size medium MKS cages Velocity Deep V (28h) Wheels no name Road Stem, 90mm (now 100mm) Suzue Pro Max Hubs ("Disco") - sealed cartridge Shimano Bottom Bracket Natta NJS Super Headset Vittoria Zaffiro tires 49T "Mighty Competition" chainring 18 tooth EAI Track Sprocket/Cog BMX Chain (to try and avoid stretch) |
Wow that's pretty damn hot witz.
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Originally Posted by teadoggg
in my opinion, keirin is *way* overrated, unless you can get it for a deal (e-framebank). It's BS that all these used, beatup keirin frames are selling for $700.
S/F, CEYA! |
Originally Posted by wangster
As much as I love my 3rensho, I think paying 700 for a used frame, japanese or italian is just ridiculous. It seems that people that are willing and able to pay that kind of cash just isn't doing it for the right reason. I had a choice of getting either a 3rensho with or without a slight ding, guess which one I went with. The 700 no ding one was bought right after mine and built up by the shop. That's a stupid price to pay for a keirin frame, even with shipping, e-framebank frames don't cost 700.
S/F, CEYA! |
Originally Posted by YellowFixedGear
my uncle lives in japan and im trying to see what he can do about sending me a few. its crazy how you can get one there for around 100 bucks
S/F, CEYA! MATA NE! |
Originally Posted by the Repeater
The Japanese have niche fanaticisms with everything that is antiquated and NOT their culture.
Lugged steel IS obsolete, even if tons of people still think it's pretty; myself not included. I'd much rather have a thick wall, stiff as hell, non-heavy, alloy frame thanks. Even nicer with front and rear carbon forks. S/F, CEYA! |
Originally Posted by witz
Reposting my ride - deleted my original post by mistake. On the topic of Keirin hatred, I can tell you I got my frame for less than the cost of a Surly Steamroller or Soma. I like the lugs.
A whole load of photos can be seen at Yanagisawa - a photoset on Flickr http://static.flickr.com/29/43134763_e6f818e9a9_o.jpg http://static.flickr.com/29/43134704_aadc9c2852.jpg Pictured: The new bike build. Keirin frame by Yanagisawa, straight outta Tokyo, Japan. Almost all other parts courtesy of eBay and Trackstar, NYC (including labor - many thanks for all the help these fine people gave me). Note: Have changed handlebar setup since photo snapped. For the obsessed: 49.5cm Yanagisawa Keirin Track Frame (51cm top tube) 39cm Nitto Drops (1 inch chopped on each end) Champ Grips (yellow) Selle Italia White Flite Titanium Saddle Generic Seatpost Sugino 75 Cranks - 165mm Sylvan MKS Pedals white EAI straps, size medium MKS cages Velocity Deep V (28h) Wheels no name Road Stem, 90mm (now 100mm) Suzue Pro Max Hubs ("Disco") - sealed cartridge Shimano Bottom Bracket Natta NJS Super Headset Vittoria Zaffiro tires 49T "Mighty Competition" chainring 18 tooth EAI Track Sprocket/Cog BMX Chain (to try and avoid stretch) S/F, CEYA! |
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i had trouble sleeping last night after seeing this at montano velo, my reduced pics plus low light do not fully capture the pearl paint, and i really do not want to go back for more worship, as last night was a pretty pathetic, a grown man sitting alone staring at a bike for such a quite long time...
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I love it witz! one of my favourites
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Allow me to be the first to post after the ripley jumble (apparently the english t-town). I thought i was getting a beater too sell at the end of the year but now i like it way too much to just get rid of. Shoddy pics i know but deal.
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Originally Posted by Ceya
then don't buy it. YOUR LOSS, MY GAIN.
S/F, CEYA! What's the story here? |
Originally Posted by ImOnCrank
Allow me to be the first to post after the ripley jumble (apparently the english t-town). I thought i was getting a beater too sell at the end of the year but now i like it way too much to just get rid of. Shoddy pics i know but deal.
Dig the flat bar. But man...you don't even see fenders that big here in Oregon! |
Originally Posted by raygunner
Didn't you have the mods lock you out?
What's the story here? Holidays! aren't supposed to be learning disarming techniques..what is going on here? S/F< CEYA! |
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