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dutret 03-02-07 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by baxtefer
brake levers WTF?

It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike. "Look at me I have two brakes, regular road lever but I still managed to not have usuable hoods or brakes that could be easily reached most of the time."

DoshKel 03-02-07 01:42 PM

Oh jesus christ.

Kilgore_Trout 03-02-07 02:03 PM

holy ******** BLING!

queerpunk 03-02-07 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike. "Look at me I have two brakes, regular road lever but I still managed to not have usuable hoods or brakes that could be easily reached most of the time."

do you honestly think that you're going to get people to see the light by being a jerk, rather than offer helpful advice? seriously. you are knowledgable. spread the knowledge instead of ragging on people for not being as enlightened as you are.

bklyn74 03-02-07 02:10 PM

to each his own but the brake lever location is about to make my head explode. . .i do like the way the bottle cages make kind of an optical illusion tho.

savier_pdx 03-02-07 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike. "Look at me I have two brakes, regular road lever but I still managed to not have usuable hoods or brakes that could be easily reached most of the time."

do you ever get tired of being a ******bag? jesus, you must have had a rough ****ing childhood. did they call you names and stuff?

dutret 03-02-07 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk
do you honestly think that you're going to get people to see the light by being a jerk, rather than offer helpful advice? seriously. you are knowledgable. spread the knowledge instead of ragging on people for not being as enlightened as you are.

I don't think I will convice the type of moron who would mount brakes like that not to with any amount of knowledge. Clearly know what he is doing and cares more about style then have a bike that rides well. However, I have some hope that through my ridicule of his bike fewer lemmings will mimic him.

queerpunk 03-02-07 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
I don't think I will convice the type of moron who would mount brakes like that not to with any amount of knowledge. Clearly know what he is doing and cares more about style then have a bike that rides well. However, I have some hope that through my ridicule of his bike fewer lemmings will mimic him.

well, you're making assumptions about why they are doing it, but there's still a chance that we can convince that person. okay? i'll hold your hand through it. repeat after me.

hey vpiuva, why do you have your brake levers mounted like that? you might find the traditional way of mounting them a little bit more functional - have you tried that way? when they are on the shoulders of the drops, you can rest your hands on top of the hoods and still reach the levers (which is a pretty comfortable position); and you'll also be able to reach them from the drops, where you can reach them now. anyway, just curious.

ryand 03-02-07 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk
do you honestly think that you're going to get people to see the light by being a jerk, rather than offer helpful advice? seriously. you are knowledgable. spread the knowledge instead of ragging on people for not being as enlightened as you are.

Thats 3 for the day. Most positive person on bikeforums?

queerpunk 03-02-07 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by ryand
Thats 3 for the day. Most positive person on bikeforums?

i'm just constantly seeking redemption for starting the infamous "i hate everybody" thread.

dutret 03-02-07 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk
well, you're making assumptions about why they are doing it.


And my assumptions proved to be correct.

ryand 03-02-07 02:23 PM

haha. i think you are forgiven mattio. keep it up though, i like it.

the bike has a few quirks, but overall its a nice build.

queerpunk 03-02-07 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
And my assumptions proved to be correct.


Originally Posted by vpiuva
This position keeps the cables out of the way and me in the drops.


Originally Posted by dutret
It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike.


hmm.

ryand 03-02-07 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by vpiuva
I thought they might stir up a few comments. Keep 'em coming. I've ridden bikes with brakes on the curves since 1971 and thought I'd try something different. As an engineer you've got to break out and try something new to verify what you think you already know sometimes.

i think bar end levers would have looked better than hoods down there. just my opinion.

pyze-guy 03-02-07 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
And my assumptions proved to be correct.

No, your assumption was wrong.

barba 03-02-07 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by ryand
i think bar end levers would have looked better than hoods down there. just my opinion.

I agree. If you want levers in that position TT levers might be more functional.

I admire the desire for innovation, but that setup makes no sense to me. The high rise stem and the angle of the bars makes me think you would be better off flipping the stem and riding the hoods in their traditional place. Enjoy your bike, and if the setup works for you so be it.

dutret 03-02-07 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy
No, your assumption was wrong.

Really? I assumed that he could only get non-aero routed gold brakes to match so he put them down there so the cables wouldn't poke up over the bars.

After reading his explanation that is exactly what happened.

dutret 03-02-07 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by vpiuva
Hey Dutret, do you think a moron could have stripped & painted this frame (with his homemade decals) - no rattlecan here, two-stage and two-tone paint with clearcoat, collected the parts, and assembled the bike all by his little moron self? Just curious.


uhhh yeah I do. Engineering is great and all but it's a poor engineer that just tries something out without a clear idea of the costs benefits and other options.

Now you have no brakes when you're not in the drops making the rest of the bar more or less useless except for climbing which too is hurt by the lack of hoods. If you only wanted one useful position you might as well just gotten a crazy drop stem and bullhorns mounting the gold levers on the end of that.

ryand 03-02-07 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by vpiuva
And I agree. Couldn't find any gold ones, though. I am considering setting up my own home anodizing system, though.

Black would work for a temporary trial.
Whats the date on the side?

edit: just looked again. thats probably not a date.

pyze-guy 03-02-07 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
Really? I assumed that he could only get non-aero routed gold brakes to match so he put them down there so the cables wouldn't poke up over the bars.

After reading his explanation that is exactly what happened.

Funny because this is what you said-

"It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike. "Look at me I have two brakes, regular road lever but I still managed to not have usuable hoods or brakes that could be easily reached most of the time.""

and this

"I don't think I will convice the type of moron who would mount brakes like that not to with any amount of knowledge. Clearly know what he is doing and cares more about style then have a bike that rides well. However, I have some hope that through my ridicule of his bike fewer lemmings will mimic him."

So no, your assumption was wrong. Be a man and admit it. We all know you won't. But thats okay, we already know what you will do next. Attack someone and start the name calling and ranting etc. when one doesn't conform to your views of how things should be. If that makes you happy fine, I feel sad for you, but each to their own.

dutret 03-02-07 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy
Funny because this is what you said-

"It's so people know he cares more about being different then having a functional bike. "Look at me I have two brakes, regular road lever but I still managed to not have usuable hoods or brakes that could be easily reached most of the time.""

and this

"I don't think I will convice the type of moron who would mount brakes like that not to with any amount of knowledge. Clearly know what he is doing and cares more about style then have a bike that rides well. However, I have some hope that through my ridicule of his bike fewer lemmings will mimic him."

So no, your assumption was wrong. Be a man and admit it. We all know you won't. But thats okay, we already know what you will do next. Attack someone and start the name calling and ranting etc. when one doesn't conform to your views of how things should be. If that makes you happy fine, I feel sad for you, but each to their own.

Sorry that was not meant to be taken literally. I have admitted I'm wrong before. This is not one of those cases, though there is no way to prove that.

ryand 03-02-07 03:02 PM

http://www.huge-entity.com/blogger3/...ing-head-3.jpg

Oh hey look at this pretty bike instead of two pages of arguing in a picture thread.

oooh pretty.
http://velospace.org/files/DSCN3887.jpg
not mine, found on velospace

ryand 03-02-07 03:04 PM

oh god it doesnt have clips and straps, here we go again.

dutret 03-02-07 03:05 PM

what is it?

queerpunk 03-02-07 03:05 PM

i know the rider of that bike. he's a good guy and a strong rider. it does have clips and straps, just not in that photo.


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