did any one else see it is also a School Zone. that kind of makes this even worse. the guy hopped a medium in a school zone. school or not, driving like that in the area of a school carries heavy repercussions.

No you wouldn't. You just talk a big game on the intertubez.

The guy is probably going to get off on a $500 fine and paying for damages.

Really?

Thats assualt with a motor vehicle, not to mention the guy was a nut case, when he couldn't get around the cyclist he crossed over a concrete devider into on coming traffic, then crossed back over the barrier, pins some poor cyclist foot to the ground with his car! then proceeds to try and run down other cyclist?! Three square in the chest would have been the perfect reaction to his insane actions.

both parties made mistakes here, but in court the motorist's mistake would FOR SURE weigh more. this is why i ride in the bike lane whenever possible...if you respect people they'll respect you back.

unless they happen to be ****ing nuts.

I agree....kinda, I feel that people don't really have to be nuts to act nuts!

All of you idiots defending the biker are forgetting that he was wobbling around at 5mph INTENTIONALLY blocking traffic in what is at MINIMUM at 25mph speed limited area.


if a car was INTENTIONALLY blocking traffic in the same circumstance, they would be pulled over and ticketed



all this horse **** about bikes rights and equal opportunity is just like ****ing women *****ing about how they get paid less at a job, but then they need special accommodations for them because they can't lift as much weight as the guy that had the job before them.



if you ask me, critical masses are generally a crock of **** for a bunch of idiots who have no clue what kind of effect they're having on the big picture.

you want to raise awareness? how about you and all of your friends ride PROPERLY and LEGALLY all the time...if everyone did this there would be a ton less issues w/ bikers in the road

"All of you idiots defending the biker are forgetting that he was wobbling around at 5mph INTENTIONALLY blocking traffic in what is at MINIMUM at 25mph speed limited area."

for which the cyclist deserves to be run over with a car.

Yea lets accommodate all the yahoo's out there in their cars with all their "special" needs.
God forbid people be allowed to protest.... and horrors, if it was against cars and how they deal with others on the roadways.

people these days...




think about what you just said...it's a PROTEST


if i came to your house and protested your idiot point of view by coming over into your front yard with a pot and a hammer and started banging around making noise, would you be in the wrong to get pissed off at me?


I don't see how this is any different.

Yes...allowed to be pissed off, YES.....allowed to try and kill you with your hammer... ah no. Why is so hard for you? ^impulse control issues Sir?^
Actually you would be on private property, so if I lived in the good ol' US of A then yes, I could legally kill you. But I'm in Canada and can't fathom the thought of killing someone for protesting OR getting in my way while I drive.

no, just have no issues abiding by the laws on my bike, so i rarely get disrespected by cars on the road. i stay right when a car is approaching and i let them past if they're in fact going faster than me and it's safe.


why can't these idiots do the same thing? because they want to make a statement? what was the statement? that they're ****ing morons?

ok so you abide, the issue is to get the drivers to abide the laws, and treat riders like they are actually there. Hence the plugging.... "critical mass" get it?

This is why I quit riding in critical mass. It was a lot fun when it was just a big group ride. Last time I went it seemed like people were just trying to cause trouble.

my last post in this idiotic thread.




are you a police officer? chances are, no, you're not.


it is not your job to get drivers to abide by the laws. that's the job of the police and the driver's moral obligation, whether they so choose to abide by them or not.


you got a problem, report it to the police.

if somebody hits you or puts you in danger and causes you to be injured, call the police.

otherwise, you have no legal right to do anything about it.


all these critical mass rides do is cause more problems and make it worse for people like me (people who do the right thing and DEAL WITH IT)

Wow, I can't believe how many people on a cycling forum are responding in agreement with the driver, or even implying that somehow blocking a road deserves getting assaulted by a car.

I think all this protest crap is stupid, but if some asswipe is tailgating me, I'm also not going to bail out of his way because I don't enjoy enabling people to continue acting like pricks.

Of course, if the dude was on my foot like that, I would have most likely grabbed my lock out of my pocket and started smashing the **** out of his face. Seeing as how a lot of you think "able to do so" means the same thing as "justified in doing so," the crater left in the guy's head where his face used to be shouldn't be a problem, right?

Yeah, because the police give a flying ****.

Last week ago a guy yelled some crap out of his car at a friend of mine. My friend flipped him off, and then the guy slammed on his brakes, jumped out of the car with two other guys, and beat his ass.

We saw the guys who did it playing frisbee next to their car an hour later at the park. My friend called the cops, told them he'd called earlier and had found the people who did it, and they told him they'd come question the people soon. We waited for another hour and no cops ever showed up.

So yeah, **** your horrible advice.

Your troll-fu is weak. Practice and come back.

I can see both sides of the argument here. The cyclists have a right to be there, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a nutjob waiting to run them over. It obviously wasn't right for the driver to run anyone over, but it wasn't smart for the cyclist to antagonize the driver.

I'm all for cyclists rights, but I can't imagine being right and having the law on your side is all that comforting when you're being run over by a car.

Any idea of the outcome in this case?

The police, are generally there to clean up the mess. Proactive crime deterrence by the police is usually a case of roll-by visibility, not super-cop work. The reason the CM's are out there, right or not, is their/our needs ar enot being met by law enforcement or the general populace of law abiding drivers. Now if it were a global truism then I'd give you the point and chalk it up to human nature. BUT cyclist DONOT have these problems in Europe or in Asia, so it rests squarely on the shoulders of the North Americans. Sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice for what you believe in, that kind of attitude used to be celebrated in this part of the world. It's not that hard to stand up to motorist you know.

Surprised no one chased him down on their bike at all.

Right on. And you're breaking the forum rules by being abusive and disrespectful so naturally we're all on the same page and believe you should be run down by a car on one of your rides since we're all subscribing to the theory of disproportionate vigilante justice wherever possible

You can't be so incredibly stupid that you can't distinguish between a person's private residence and public roads paid for by the citizenry. Nobody is that stupid. Nobody.

I feel sympathy for the cyclist only to the point of one human disliking another's pain. That's it.

They brought it upon themselves by not following bicycle rules (single file and as rightmost as safe) and going extraordinarily slow.

Is the driver insane? Yeah. Did the cyclist deserve to get hit? Not really. But his actions at least partially caused it.