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Old 09-10-13 | 09:56 AM
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Old 09-10-13 | 10:21 AM
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theres apps like burner and google voice that let you use fake numbers fyi

but if the guys paying up front i wouldnt be too worried
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Old 09-10-13 | 10:33 AM
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Thanks guys. It was just way way to easy of a sale. Usually you jump through hopes and have to detail every single inch of a bike in photos.
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Old 09-10-13 | 01:25 PM
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Thanks guys. It was just way way to easy of a sale. Usually you jump through hopes and have to detail every single inch of a bike in photos.
Some people (like me) are easy

Today I learned that quality control on Kilo TTs isn't the best. The threading on the fixed cup of the BB is totally screwed up and it has partially damaged the BB shell . Usable but hard to screw in and out.
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Old 09-10-13 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spRICE
Today I learned that quality control on Kilo TTs isn't the best. The threading on the fixed cup of the BB is totally screwed up and it has partially damaged the BB shell . Usable but hard to screw in and out.
Go to your LBS and have them chase the threads. Should fix things right up.
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:05 PM
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Today I learned that quality control on Kilo TTs isn't the best. The threading on the fixed cup of the BB is totally screwed up and it has partially damaged the BB shell . Usable but hard to screw in and out.
If you want to see really crappy QC, check out the BB adjustable (left) cup on my Vilano. That's the way it came installed from the factory, and I haven't even tried to tighten or remove it.

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Old 09-10-13 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
If you want to see really crappy QC, check out the BB adjustable (left) cup on my Vilano. That's the way it came installed from the factory, and I haven't even tried to tighten or remove it.

Hopefully it's just wider BB cups.
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:23 PM
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Hopefully it's just wider BB cups.
I don't think so. Look closely and you'll see that the cup is askew in the BB shell. Normally, those cups screw all the way almost flush with the BB, but that one is totally cross-threaded for sure. And yes, I measured the BB width, and it's 68mm.
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:29 PM
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He was saying the cup may be wider, not the shell.

It's most likely cross-threaded in and when it got really hard to turn, whoever was doing the assembly just left it.
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:31 PM
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He was saying the cup may be wider, not the shell.
Why would the cup be wider ?
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:34 PM
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Why would the cup be wider ?
Maybe whoever made the BB cup did something like phil does with theirs:
Just a hunch though, your hypothesis has merits nonetheless.



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Originally Posted by Leukybear
Maybe whoever made the BB cup did something like phil does with theirs:
Just a hunch though, your hypothesis has merits nonetheless.



My "hypothesis" is based on empirical data. I can clearly see that the cup is not screwed in all the way, such that there is a gap between the inner face of the cup and the outside of the bearing cartridge. Also, this BB assembly is identical to all the other generic 110mm JIS units such as the Andel Cobra that are in my other bikes.

Also, this BB assembly is flanged on the right fixed side, such that there is no adjustment possible the way the Phil BBs provide.
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Old 09-10-13 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Why would the cup be wider ?
Because it's a piece of **** bottom bracket.

FWIW, I've seen several on crappy bikes from Target, Walmart, etc that haven't threaded in all the way because the NDS cup has been much too wide.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Because it's a piece of **** bottom bracket.

FWIW, I've seen several on crappy bikes from Target, Walmart, etc that haven't threaded in all the way because the NDS cup has been much too wide.
Maybe so, but not in this case. Clearly the cup is crooked and clearly it is not flush with the bearing cartridge. But yes, you are correct that the bike is a POS.
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Old 09-10-13 | 04:39 PM
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It's most likely cross-threaded in and when it got really hard to turn, whoever was doing the assembly just left it.
I think it's funny that you never bothered trying to fix it or even investigate.
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I think it's funny that you never bothered trying to fix it or even investigate.
Well, I couldn't fix it because I don't have a BB thread tap and didn't want to pay an LBS to fix it. I figured that as long as it didn't get loose, then why mess with it.
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Old 09-10-13 | 05:47 PM
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Some people (like me) are easy

Today I learned that quality control on Kilo TTs isn't the best. The threading on the fixed cup of the BB is totally screwed up and it has partially damaged the BB shell . Usable but hard to screw in and out.
Please, hopefully the forum can help me understand?

I am new here, working on my 1st sw8 fixay & have a question...

Why is it that when there is a question about what us new ss/fg guys looking to not spend a lot should buy, anyone who suggests anything other than something from Bikedirect is attacked as a shill for some other bikeness?

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Because that's usually the case.
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Please, hopefully the forum can help me understand?

I am new here, working on my 1st sw8 fixay & have a question...

Why is it that when there is a question about what us new ss/fg guys looking to not spend a lot should buy, anyone who suggests anything other than something from Bikedirect is attacked as a shill for some other bikeness?
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Because that's usually the case.
This. But not really the right thread to ask the question.

For a halfway decent low cost bike bikesdirect is generally your best option. A good quality single speed or fixed gear bike, any bike really, isn't cheap, hence your options are very limited if you're looking to buy new and spend no more than $300-400 all-in. When buying a bike, particularly if your looking for something above and beyond mere transportation - any old bike will accommodate that - you need to qualify your needs and expectations and then ask the question, "how much is this going to cost me?" Don't get me wrong. I can totally appreciate operating on a budget, but many newbies are unrealistic about cost. Save up for your dream bike and buy something cheap, perhaps second-hand, if you need a bike here and now.

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