Addiction III
12-04-10 | 04:01 PM
#626
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Pcad likes Cervelo, he is the pope of BF, Cervelos must be great bikes.
12-04-10 | 04:05 PM
#627
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
appeal to false authority
12-04-10 | 04:07 PM
#628
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From: Colorado
Bikes: Something Canadian, something Italian, something American, and something German
12-04-10 | 04:11 PM
#629
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Go Cocks!
12-04-10 | 04:11 PM
#630
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
not sure I would arrive at that one.
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
12-04-10 | 04:11 PM
#631
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From: Colorado
Bikes: Something Canadian, something Italian, something American, and something German
12-04-10 | 04:12 PM
#632
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not sure I would arrive at that one.
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
12-04-10 | 04:15 PM
#633
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
The training sessions where we suffer and get yelled at by a coach, work out to around $20 per session. The package I bought includes 5 free open spins, and 2 anaerobic threshold tests. $20-$25 for just the open spin seems high to me too.
It was enough for me to try to keep up with the couple that were in front of me, and to not get caught by the people behind. I'm just not focused enough to push myself in any way when I ride by myself.
I didn't actually look at my average w/kg, since I've only really focused on the watts, my HR, and cadence. My average watts always come out to embarrassingly low. (I suck at this sport, but that's the point of taking the class, it can only get better.) Most of the men in the group today were around 170-185. The women were from 86-140. I was in the middle-ish.
I'm still trying to figure out how I stay in zone 5 for my HR for 90 minutes though. (Based on my AT test zones) I know I asked about this before, and was told it was probably doing some good, but I keep getting into arguments with the Mr. about him wanting me to be in zone 2/3. Eff me, I'm slow as it is, to get my heart rate that low I have to be barely moving.
It was enough for me to try to keep up with the couple that were in front of me, and to not get caught by the people behind. I'm just not focused enough to push myself in any way when I ride by myself.
I didn't actually look at my average w/kg, since I've only really focused on the watts, my HR, and cadence. My average watts always come out to embarrassingly low. (I suck at this sport, but that's the point of taking the class, it can only get better.) Most of the men in the group today were around 170-185. The women were from 86-140. I was in the middle-ish.
I'm still trying to figure out how I stay in zone 5 for my HR for 90 minutes though. (Based on my AT test zones) I know I asked about this before, and was told it was probably doing some good, but I keep getting into arguments with the Mr. about him wanting me to be in zone 2/3. Eff me, I'm slow as it is, to get my heart rate that low I have to be barely moving.
I think my average watts for 90 minutes was like 165. One of my buddies was close to 200 but he weighs a lot more than me (I am only 144 pounds) so his average w/kg was lower.
It sounds like the deal you describe is reasonable. I would even consider springing for the (overpriced) classes in my area but I live in metro philly and our winters are really not that harsh, generally even if there is a snow it is cleared within a few days so I just ride outside. Today I did 45 miles and the temp was about 38 degrees and it was fine.
12-04-10 | 04:17 PM
#634
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
not sure I would arrive at that one.
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
here's a better example of using that scientific meme as a fallacy:
observation: this thread revealed useful information
observation: pcad posted in this thread
conclusion: pcad must be responsible for the useful information
(leaving out the important variable = pcad posts in EVERY thread)
correlation does not imply causation
ooo ooo..i got one.
pcad owns several bikes
pcad owns a beautiful scott addict
pcad has good taste in bikes
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12-04-10 | 04:20 PM
#635
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My non-expert impression: When I was handwringing at the LBS trying to chose between Rival and Force, I could feel a slight difference between the three. It's like there's more play in the lever before actuation. I didn't spend as much time messing with Red, but we also bought the Mr.'s F3 (with Red Shifters and RD) at the same time, and I rode it while my bike was apart to swap the group. Certainly not enough of a difference to me to pay twice as much, but the LBS gave us the Force group for only $100 more than the Rival group, so that seemed worth it.
12-04-10 | 04:23 PM
#636
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
If we assume that "beautiful Scott addict" = "good taste" then the fallacy is:
Affirming The Consequent:
logic reversal. A correct statement of the form "if P then Q" gets turned into "Q therefore P".
12-04-10 | 04:29 PM
#637
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
this logic thing is doing my head in.
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coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
12-04-10 | 04:33 PM
#638
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
12-04-10 | 04:34 PM
#639
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
12-04-10 | 04:37 PM
#640
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
college sports
wut
wut
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coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
12-04-10 | 04:39 PM
#641
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
don't they have that in the UK?
12-04-10 | 04:41 PM
#642
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
not really and certainly not with the general following that yours do.
one exception is the oxford vs cambridge boat race that has become a national event.
one exception is the oxford vs cambridge boat race that has become a national event.
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coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
12-04-10 | 04:47 PM
#643
gmt
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I wonder if the US is the only country that puts a name on athletic teams:
instead of calling a baseball team 'New York', they are called the "Yankees", or the "Tigers" instead of Detroit. This is a mild example that gets rabid once you cross into college sports with all the mascots.
Whereas in the UK you have football teams that simply go by their town or area: i.e. Manchester United, Liverpool, Stoke etc
instead of calling a baseball team 'New York', they are called the "Yankees", or the "Tigers" instead of Detroit. This is a mild example that gets rabid once you cross into college sports with all the mascots.
Whereas in the UK you have football teams that simply go by their town or area: i.e. Manchester United, Liverpool, Stoke etc
12-04-10 | 04:49 PM
#644
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
could it be that your teams have more likelihood of moving? ours tend to be geographical and that's that.
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coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
12-04-10 | 04:50 PM
#645
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
colleges are not likely to move.
The history is strange though. the first ever professional baseball team was called the Cincinatti Red Stockings, but back then there were sports contest between colleges and I don't think there was naming. Yale would play Harvard etc.
The history is strange though. the first ever professional baseball team was called the Cincinatti Red Stockings, but back then there were sports contest between colleges and I don't think there was naming. Yale would play Harvard etc.
12-04-10 | 04:54 PM
#646
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I wonder if the US is the only country that puts a name on athletic teams:
instead of calling a baseball team 'New York', they are called the "Yankees", or the "Tigers" instead of Detroit. This is a mild example that gets rabid once you cross into college sports with all the mascots.
Whereas in the UK you have football teams that simply go by their town or area: i.e. Manchester United, Liverpool, Stoke etc
instead of calling a baseball team 'New York', they are called the "Yankees", or the "Tigers" instead of Detroit. This is a mild example that gets rabid once you cross into college sports with all the mascots.
Whereas in the UK you have football teams that simply go by their town or area: i.e. Manchester United, Liverpool, Stoke etc
12-04-10 | 04:55 PM
#647
gmt
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From: Binghamton, NY
there was a Royal Arsenal there
12-04-10 | 05:00 PM
#648
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12-04-10 | 05:00 PM
#649
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
and it is a rare team not named after a geographical area.
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coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
12-04-10 | 05:00 PM
#650
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From: Long Island, NY
Bikes: '85 Rossin Super Record, '88 Specialized Sequoia, '10 Raleigh Cadent FT2, '10 Specialized Roubaix Elite
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