Can you say it's full 105 if hubs/rims aren't 105?

I don't really care about the whole Shimano vs SRAM debate. It's silly. Shimano has always gotten the job done for me. I'm just glad to be rid of the Sora thumb shifters.

Are you considering the U.K.? I understand the gulf stream current keeps it nice and toasty.

Bonus: royal weddings

it's even worse.

Europe sounds cool, one place that I could easily get a job is switzerland, I wonder if it's a good place for cycling...


edit : I failed, switzerland not sweden. I mix them all the time sorry

Sweet, but how do you forget to buy pedals?

I used a mechanical pencil all the time, when I was an accountant.

How do you have a job lined up in Switzerland? Can you get me one? I'm Swiss-American.

I thought you were Canadian-American.

I run 105 pedals. They're almost 30 years old, tho.

Ohhhh my calves are sore. CEP socks are on.

Certified extra pulmonary?

Other side of the tree . . . and back many generations. Sadly, I don't think I am eligible for Swiss citizenship . . . or a Swiss miss.

No pain no gain?

Hmm.

You only need two.

Haven't used it in a while.

It was extremely hilarious to my up-since-4:30am-punchdrunk self.

There is no call for amusing audio clips, since BF lost its wit.

The original pedals I had bent and stripped out the crank arm - thus my push to upgrade the drivetrain. I got everything I needed except new pedals.

If you want cheap but good pedals and cleats, contact me via PM.

I figured I'd ask here instead of making a new thread. For stem angle measurements, are the angles measured in relation to the stem clamp being horizontal and it bends below or above 90 degrees, or are they measured in relation to the angle of head tube angle, like if the headtube angle was 73 degrees, you would need a 17 degree stem for it to be horizontal? I want to get a new stem that is parallel in relation to the ground but I'm unsure of what angle stem to get. My current says it's -7 degree. Here's a picture of the stem right now

I just remembered... I went to my normal LBS today looking for a wider range cassette. I wanted a 11-32 and the guy brought it to me and told me it won't work on anything but SRAM Apex and that they have a 105 11-28. I asked what about it won't work and he was sort of short with me.. didn't really give me a clear answer. So I held off, came home, looked up the specs on some Shimano stuff and found out that it indeed would not work.

So I went to the other LBS down the street and in summary, I left convinced they were my new LBS. It felt nice feeling like I could actually have a conversation with the shop guy and leave feeling like I learned something.

Yep, 17 is what you need if you want a flat stem.

I've seen them listed in two ways - angle from head tube or angle from the perpendicular of headtube. 90° and 0° stem can mean the same thing. Most everyone does the angle from the perpendicular of the headtube these days.

So my current one is measured from the angle perpendicular to the head tube, and the one I want is measured from the angle of the head tube in relation to the ground? So what I'm looking for is a 17 degree stem which could only be measured from the angle of the head tube since if it were measured perpendicular to the head tube, it'd be angled way below horizontal? I'm just trying to repeat in my words to clarify what you're saying.

this would give me a horizontal stem, right?

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