lol @ earmuffs and lol @ interaction.... great read :)

RE: movies tonight, is there a cover? I don't remember seeing one... BUT I'm broke until tomorrow now :p

Ahahahaha, man - you're on a golden run with teh interw3b pics :D

TJ: You'd probably do well with any of those choices. Of course, the best solution would be to take each of them for a ride, but that's fairly unlikely to happen unless you find them at the bike show or something. Price and geometry would be my primary factors, plus aesthetics of course! The Yeti comes with an EC90x fork and a King headset, which is potentially a nice bonus if the price is competitive, and it's gorgeous. Rocky Mountain I'm generally kinda 'meh' on, but not for any real reason. The Marinoni's look pretty nice.

DrBenway: You know, the guy who slammed on his brakes in front of me a few weeks ago very well might have also been driving a Trail Blazer. *ponder*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2885aR6o6s

"Fixed" 'er for ya...

Hey Keith - what is your reasoning again for using brass nipples over alu ones? I was talking to someone the other day about wheel building and it came up but I couldn't remember why one was better than the other... strength? Longevity?

uh thank ya...thank ya vury much!

hahahahaha K that fix-push video is dope!! is iro comin out with a board anytime soon? ;)

Cover for video night, Anyone, Bueller..?

This is quite true and something that hadn't even crossed my addled brain.

noni's pricing....
yes the express version is SLIGHTLY more aggressive.....

the steel frame costs 625$ or 750$ with custom geometry.
the xpress version is 800$ or 925$ with custom geometry
add 125$ for a carbon fork and 63$ for a FSA headset (orbit-x or MX model)

175 for slightly more agro?

alu is lighter and comes in a rainbow of colours....very prone to corrosion tho. Brass will take winters and keep on turning. stronger too. The weight savings is really only for the highly competitive or weight weenie.

A few guys on the team are getting custom cross frames from xprezo....he was the head welder at Balfa and now has his own small shop. Price wouldn't be much more than a Mari and better tubing. Steel only.

Not many potholes up there though.

Balfa? I had one of their beercan sized forks a lifetime ago. He made some crrrazy rides over the years.
is there a site?

Turbulence?

Assuming you're talking about Klunkerz/Still We Ride -- there's no cover, it's a bikechain event. Wish I could be there, but I sadly need to be elsewhere. I really wanted to see "Still We Ride", and we were supposed to show it at the last movie night, but it hadn't arrived in the mail yet.

From the facebook:

Event Info
Name:
Bikechain Movie Night: Still We Ride and Klunkerz
Tagline:
Come out and see some awesome bike movies
Host:
Bike Chain
Type:
Party - Movie/TV Night
Time and PlaceDate:
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Time:
7:00pm - 9:00pm
Location:
Cumberland Room
Street:
33 St. George - International Student Centre
City/Town:
Toronto, ON

niiice , team getting the ultra hop? I read clearances for 32's... what do you guys generally run?

Ok I guess this is worth a spam here, I just received this from sam houston. Parts unknown needs some help.

This set is infinite I think

Yeah cccheck this out http://www.light-bikes.com/BikeGalle...ct.asp?catid=3

My point being bikes are bikes and planes are planes. There are so many more variables than just material so it's not an apt comparison.

One time someone brought their schmancy belt drive bike into the shop and was impressed that her drive belt was made of Kevlar- "The same thing they use in bullet proof vests!" I couldn't help but think that my chain was made of steel- "The same thing they use for tanks!"

Spoken like an engineer. Materials are only a part of the equation after all. I can imagine aircraft and bike CF being distant cousins. Would a frozen CF frame/bar shatter/break easier than say room temp or summer heat if dropped? I simply don't know enough about this wundermaterial.

32s max on which bike? That seems pretty narrow for a max tire size on a cx bike. I ran Michelin Muds all last season which are marked as 30mm, but apparently they're closer to 35mm in reality. I think Mike has measured a few different sets with calipers at the shop. Still lots of room left with those on my bike for the gunk to escape.

Has anyone ever taken that bisegal frame building course for $700? Where you get taught how to build your *own* custom steel frame?

+1

http://www.xprezo.ca/en/xprezo_prod_hop.html

The HOP uses Columbus Zona Megatube tubing. The 1700g frame is stable, fast and agile, and offers ample clearance for tires up to 32mm wide. Great for cycle-touring, it is equipped with eyelets for a rack.

The ULTRA HOP holds champion titles in Quebec and Canada and is Xprezo’s top of the line cyclo-cross offering. Its octogonal Columbus Spirit front triangle tubes and Columbus Zona rear triangle minimize weight while conserving the optimal ride characteristics of steel. Produced for connoisseurs, the ULTRA HOP's 1465g weight facilitates climbing both the trail and the podium.

So I am not crazy in that that seems a bit thin? Is the HOP narrower than the Ultra HOP as far as clearances?

The JIT5 is gone..

http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...14&postcount=6

awesome. I didn't even know they had a frame building course! thanks.
They don't have their website anymore but I checked out their old website with the internet archiver and theres no mentioning of this course. :(

http://web.archive.org/web/200704291...ca/welcome.htm

> "Hi Smokey
> I think you know George of "Parts Unknown" in Kensington. He is in
> rather dire straits, as I guess many bike sellers are at this time
> of year, but his are maybe worse. He faces eviction tomorrow if he
> doesn't raise about $600 or so. He hasn't had power there for a few
> months, and now is so behind on rent that a Kensington institution
> faces imminent extinction. He's offering some great desperation
> deals on everything from higher end collector's stuff to cheapo
> rides. I've been trying to help him out by putting up bikes on
> craigslist, but that takes time to gather momentum I guess. Being
> as you are a little more connected down there at CBN, I was hoping
> you might put the word out.
>
> Here's a couple of links to pics of the bikes and details:
> http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/586032473.html (bicycles)
> http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/586029155.html (bicycles)
> http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/578191175.html (bicycles)
> http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/582780483.html (bicycles)
> cheers
> Mick"

Funny how attitudes have changed about safety. When I was little kid(70's and 80's) I rode with my dad on the top tube of his ten speed all the time and we went damn fast. No helmets, either. Don't know that I'd ride like that with my kids, but that has more to do with child services being called on me if I did than worrying about crashing with them. I'm sure jit know what he's doing per his kid.

Dude. Serious responoses do not mix with trolls.

I guess the post report button DOES work.

****e. Should have know. I get "Ric Rolled" on Fark all the time, too. Ten years into this Internet thing, you figure I'd be better at it.

Quit stressin' and just pick one already.
Teddy ran a few of my tires this season and didn't have any clearance issues. It will be the same
for both. If it worries you that much just ask him to build it with a little more clearance.

Indeed. See what you can see at the bike show, then buy something, then ride the **** out of it. Done.