:ROFLMAO:

Yeeee-Haaaaa

Watch out for billionaire quail hunters!

It's a snowboarding parka, so it's not orange. No Fords for me. I have my Scion xB, which has been nicknamed the xBox. My wife called it the "icebox" yesterday morning. Climbo, I know you're joking, but I won't be doing any hunting either. Dang, I guess I'm not a proper American.

groovy. i figured as much. to give jock a little background on what the conditions were: this was done on a stationary trainer , as it normally is. did a 10 min warm up, some short sprints etc. rested for 2 mins, then brought the HR up 150 or so. gearing was 53:15, in the hardest trainer setting. started timer on polar, went as hard as possible for 8 minutes, stopped timer, spun for 10 mins, with a couple of smaller sprints, then repeat.

I have vivid memories of those hunters in a servo somewhere around Steamboat, Vail, Summit county in CO.

Actually I remember there is a town there called "Rifle", town center is called "Shotgun square"

here's that Utah weather chart again.

A balmy 7 degrees C in SLC. That's actually not too bad

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/forecast...=RWR&version=0

By the way, you can get a beer in most restaurants here, as well as grocery stores and servos. Hard alcohol has to be bought at a state liquor store, or smuggled in from another state. And Las Vegas is only a 5 hour drive away...

In all fairness, my post code is now 84097, and we're in Orem.

i can see this becomming the newest Aaron Spelling Drama... " Repat: 84097 " now, wheres Brenda?

when in NJ me and a few mates were doing a cyclo-cross training ride through some dirt trails, we rode in to a shooting zone, it was Turkey season that week. Trucks everywhere, we rode through, guns going off, blokes with turkeys over the shoulder going back to the trucks and everything. One bloke looked at us funny and asked what we were doing out there, we explained, and then he looked at us and said "don't worry about gettin' shot boys, those skinny legs you got are no good for eatin"... we rode out butts off to get out the other side of the park. :)

It's not even that cold in Tassie. 32 degrees here right now. Did I mention I work at a University, and it's 'O' Week :D

Now that's a great combination :)

Don't go giving advice like that climbo without warning him about the rips and the poofs. Or is that the point? :lol:

So what's the figure of 174bpm? The average HR for the eight mins?

Hmmmmm.... let me get my slide rule to work. 174....pi()...radians...hypotenuse...2....cosmological constant....pinch salt....

YUP: climbo is right, not significant.

Let me be rude for a minute and suggest that your test is flawed. I'm not really sure what you're measuring using the 'flat out' method. You need a constant. If you want to measure progress you'll need to compare distance covered at a fixed HR as described prev.

how do you use threshold in your training?

my training is very hi-tech: hard/long days, then easy/short days :)

I've been doing at least 450km for most weeks so far this year

I usually work around how my legs feel (my HR monitor tells me if my legs are fresh),
and the weather :p

Hey 531, you should go and play in the hills sometimes as a hard session and stop just following Kathy Watt up and down Beach Rd. :D

(edit) 450km a week :eek: That's more than I've done this year I reckon. Very much a part time effort from me!

you guys might get a huge laugh out of this, and probably think I'm a BIG tosser, but I've tailed Kathy Watt a few times when she's being doing some sort of intervals, and if I couldn't beat that midget on a flat time-trial, I would give it up and only ride on the Yarra bike paths :p :D

come on...rip into me :p

For me LT doesn't come into it. Everything is based on incremental change to intensity or duration of pain, coupled with liberal doses of rest.

Since I can't afford a power meter the intensity is based on heart rate zones. The zones are relative to maxHR and are set based on the results of vomitous tests which were used to estimate my LT in the absence of a lab.

Now HDT is on the right track because LT will change with training, so you have to retest periodically to keep your training zones in check. NSWIS recommend once every 3 months, otherwise their lab techs sit around with nothing to do. At mug level like me, once every 6 months is enuf.

I've smoked her going up hill on the crit circuit at Kew Bvld....admittedly she was riding slow and talking to her coach in a car at the time... :o

I've got one of the Carmichael books (The Lance Armstrong Performanc Program; 7 Weeks to the Perfect Ride), but it doesn't go into enough detail -- it only briefly describes the various techniques. All it says about threshold is that sometimes "the aim is to stay aerobic and stay under the threshold", but he doesn't really explain why.

One thing weird about that book is that Carmichael says that if someones spends more than (i think) 45 mins aboive their threshold, they need at least 2 days recovery rides, but his 7 week program recommends hard days on Thurs, Sat and Sun, then 'spin' days Mon Tues Wed.

She's too small for a flat course, that's why she won the time-trial the other week -- coz it was rolling terrain.

I've never seen her break 45kmh, even with a tail wind and her disc wheel!! Chicks!! Sheesh!! :rolleyes:

dunno about you guys, but chick cycling is about as good as chick football :p

ok maybee my understanding of this is incorrect.... why is itthat as soon as you think you understand, its more than clear that you dont... :(

if my method is flawed, how do i determine my hr zones for training? or have i mssread and the method im using to determine HR is OK, but the resulting number as an indication of fitness is irrelivent?

What is the method you are using to set your HR zones?

as above, 2 X 8 min LT test, then looking up the chart in Friels book from the results.

have you figured out some sort of maximum?

not as such, have used the above method to do it. highest ive seen my HR go is around 199 - 200