Guys, I'm offloading a demo singlespeed if anyone or anyone you know is in the market -

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tem=7235737975

id be interested if it wasnt an XL! :P

I can't help it if I'm an XL :p

A new one is $1995 with either a Bushnell or Paragon sliding dropouts, just in case you were wondering. :rolleyes:

Boo Hooo.

I want to buy it but me got no money.. :(

Been fighting it off fer nearly a week now. Luckily the EVCC race on Sat was cancelled.
As you told me once, vitamin C megadose. I take 2 every hour... but there's no way I'm snorting a bowl of salt water. :eek:

any of you guys vego in here?

ya ive been there, doin that, even got up last night for a hit of Vitamin C. seems to give me some short term release at a minimum.

ah cmon, if you can tollerate a sprint you can take the salt water! cleaned my sinuses right out this morning!

whats annoying is the nautious feeling in my stomach :(

Kotter - yes im a vego, well most of the time and my GF is millitant.

<-- munches on a rissole sandwich while he ponders the question :)

2 vegos here. Why, what's up?

She dun force you listen to The Smiths does she? :eek:

Semi-retired vego here.

Well I don't know about a bowl of it but a few teaspoonfuls of it does wonders. Honestly do it once and you will be sold and you will wonder why you made such a fuss about it.

Regards, Anthony

I'm thinking of going vege but I have no idea where to start. Any advice/reading you can throw my way?

I'm vego every Sunday at 3pm, on the couch watching the footy. :)

just make sure you dont become a salad vego where all you eat is salad! youl drop weight like crazy but not be getting anywhere near enough carbs / protien.

biggest thing for me has been making the protien adjustment. where if you eat meat protien seems to be in over abundance, things get shakey on the vego side. Ok i also have to clarify that im not into Soy, have read a few too many bad things about its past that scares me.

as for cycling and vego related books, Chris Carmichaels food for fitness i thought was quite a good resource, if you can stomach the constant plugs for power bars! overall though i though it was a good read as one of his main trainers is vego and has obviously had some input. as for general vego tips, try a google search , must be lots out there.

I'm not a herbivore myself so can't help, but you might get something from the Training & Nutrition sub forum too. (Apart from the floods of suspect advice from various wackos of course.....)

Odin...what's semi-retired vego mean? Too old to be bothered not eating flesh anymore? I suppose once they mash your food it's all the same hey?:p

If it was up to me id have one tomorrow! unfortunatley with the introduction of SWMBO things are now more complex.

my only hope is to convince her that seeing s i dropped 3 grand on a ring for her, the least she can do for me is buy me another bike!

off topic, but can you get shimano disk brakes (deores) for MTB's? can these be purchased without siad bike attached? PM me if you want

Vego was never a conscious choice, I've just never liked meat as long as I can remember - lately, the missus has had me eating the odd bolognese and I've eaten a few snags orf the barbie - so I reckon I'm sort of semi-retired :D
It's not something I want to make a regular habbit out of cos I usually feel like schitt afterwards.

:lol: :lol:

Hrm, general vego tips eh?

Honest, it's not that hard. The hardest part is that being a meatatarian is 'trendy' these days, so going out for dinner can be a pain in the arse. Yum-Cha is a classic example. It's not a super big pain in the bum, but it can get on your nerves after a while.

Eating at home is easy. Best advice I can give is list some classic dishes that we eat waaaayyyy to often. There are real staples that are easy to make and have a good spread of goodies in there to keep you fishing fit -

1) Napoli pasta - We regularly go to the market and buy a whole box of tomatoes and slow roast them with herbs, garlic, olive oil etc. Very handy, coz you can stir them through pasta, have them on toast, and combine them with kidney beans or mixed beans to make a great mexican bean dish. More often than not, we top this pasta with good quality Parmesan and Kalimata olives.

2) Warwick's Cross Cultural Nachos - Using some of those tomatoes, fry them up with some kidney beans, chick peas, mixed beans or whatever. Mash them up with a mashed potatoe masher thing. Add these to the base of a oven dish, add cheese and organic corn chips on top and bake for 10 minutes. Top with Salsa, Guacomole, Sweet Chili Sauce and pickled japapenos. Yummayyy! This takes literally 15 minutes and impresses the heck out of everyone who has it, which is crazy coz it's about the simplest thing you can make.

3) Stir-Fry - I have about 4 different stir-fries that I do, that are either pure incarnations or bastardisations depending on what's in the cupboard. They're the same as their meatatarian counterparts except I add strips of firm tofu or tofu puffs instead of meat. Get the tofu from Asian grocers - the stuff in Coles or whatever is sh¡t and way overpriced. Tofu is a bit tricky but easy once you know all the types and how to treat them. Investing in a good Thai or Malay cookbook is a good start.

4) Dahl - This is really my partners' thing, but it's yum and always different depending on what she wacks in there. Basically it's onion and garlic fried off with Indian herbs, then a whole wad of peas, beans and lentils and veggies thrown in. Great with Cous-cous and Traditional Greek yoghurt.

5) Vegie Dogs and Vege-burgers - Always easy to have in the fridge and a good stand-by meal if you just couldn't be bothered cooking. Plus, the whole concept of a 'vegie hotdog' is hilarious. What's even funnier is that non-vegie people we know actually prefer then to the real thing.

That's about what we have 70% of the time. We also do great risotto, I've had heaps of fun making pasta and piadini from scratch....sky's the limit.

The core thing to remember especially if you grew up with mums bad cooking or are a crap cook yourself, is that in a meat based diet, it provides most of the flavour. If you're a veggie, herbs and spices provide the flavour. Soy products are not a meat substitute.

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I have some 4pot XT discs if you want. 2nd hand, no rotors. No idea what they're worth, so feel free to make me an offer.

This is what Im most worried about

I thought I would ask here, since I trust you guys. Lately Ive been noticing a lot bs on the web (don't know why). Dietry is not something I want to stuff up.

I guess Im trying to ask what do you vegos eat? What is the equivalent meat and three veg? - I don't know any vegos

EDIT: Damn thy you must have just got in before I posted. Thanks!
EDIT 2: Any reliable web resources that you have is great. Im just sick of reading **** on the web. ie blogs

you forgot the protein, b12, iron, zinc, and VitD supplements, or is that heavily processed stuff fortified? Maybe this is why you haven't got the motivation to grind down Beach Rd every night :)

http://www.divorcekit.com/vegetarians-lack.htm
http://www.beyondveg.com/

this stuff is even on veg and vegan websites

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm



You reckon I should sell my 180mm Dura-Ace cranks?

What are these? Something you get from woolies coles.

still living at home :( (im far too close to uni to make worthwile moving out atm) but I will cooking for myself if I go vego. And I am still learning to cook but Im getting better

So I take it soy = bad? (well soy milk is evil and I guess the soy part makes that milk evil) Are dietry substitutes ok? Or should I really try and find products that have protein in them. From what Ive heard supplements are bad, but I wasn't really paying attention.

I might head off to a 2nd book shop tomorrow and see what asian style cookbooks they have.

most supplements are fine.

The benefits of fermented and nonfermented soy have been mixed and muddled, and the consumption of soy by Asians has been somewhat distorted by the vegan movement in their effort to provide a meat substitute.

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtsoy.html
http://www.mercola.com/2005/mar/23/soy.htm
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/foodm...2291%2C00.html

You're better off with protein powders.


also, one problem we all have is too much omega 6 fatty acids, relative to omega 3.
Soy oil is too high in omega 6: http://www.veganhealth.org/sh/ Scroll down to "omega".. Keep in mind, this link is on a vegan site, so it's hardly biased -- I could put some 'real' links on here, but they'd obviously be shouted down as anti-vegan.


By the way, I'm one of those old, loser, mature-age, deferred students with 2/3 of a nutrition degree :p
big deal!!! I spent most of the first 2 years trying to find what kemistree was

I've heard you can survive on dates and beer