2 discs (or even just disc front) = very hard to control outside of an enclosed velodrome, crosswinds etc. Plus there is a slight gyro effect that makes them a bit hard toget around corners.

Speaking of disc wheels, did you guys see the weights of some of the pro track bikes?

I've been shoving it up the weight weenies ever since. I've gotta admit I was shocked to see a 19 and 20lb track bikes


Damian Zielinski's Isaac.............16.3 lb
Clara Sanchez' Look...................17.0 lb
Roberto Chiappa's Pinarello.......17.3 lb
Maximilian Levy's FES.................17.4 lb
Theo Bos' Koga/BT.....................17.5 lb
Dutch team pursuit Koga/BT.......17.8 lb
Stefan Nimke's FES.....................17.9 lb
Tuen Mulder's Koga/BT...............18.5 lb
Dutch team pursuit Koga/BT.......19.2 lb
Dutch team pursuit Koga/BT.......19.4 lb
Dutch team pursuit Koga/BT.......20.7 lb

https://www.cyclingnews.com/track/200...k_worlds_bikes[/QUOTE]

Weight not an issue when there are no hills and you train all day every day for acceleration...

could even play slightly to your adv via momentum in an event like team pursuit if you were 2nd + to take a pull

There's no point at having a light track bike. There's no hills, no bumps, no potholes, no turns, no crosswinds etc etc. The only thing that matters are pure stiffness and aerodynamics.

Crap I'm tired. How long til I can finish off the Monteiths in the fridge?

I would think some of the track monsters (ie Sean Eadie & the like) would snap anything too lightweight.

Too right!

Any amount of rolling momentum you can eke out while trying to stay at 65kmh can only benefit.

ya, hence the hour record bloke who had a 3kg rear wheel or whatever it was, once he got that thing rolling he probably just stopped pedalling.

I think the guy who set the latest hour record was using quite a heavy bike and wheels in particular. Something about heavy rotating mass and momentum etc.
*grabs a beer. It is Friday and my ears hurt from screaming kid

post stealer

Yes thanks ed, Neil Stephens was the one I was trying to remember. He was racing with the Canberra Profesional cycling club and I was racing juniors with the Canberra Amateur Cycling Club along with Steve Hodge who was a young senior at that time.

Regards, Anthony

Havagoodweegendfellas

That would be right. Stevo never raced as a senior amatuer. He had a pro licence at 16.

Friday takeaways and 1/2 bottle of merlot despatched, Glenmorangie in hand, Hurricanes vs Waratahs on TV, no screaming kids (no kids) and I'll be out on the bike at 7am for a loosener before doing the 24km road bike leg of a multisport event on Sunday.

Go the Hurricanes!

I'm starting to get sick of this clap. Wife is gonna chuck a hissy fit if I go out for a ride because one of her school-mum friends used to be a physio in a younger life and keeps putting horror stories in her head. Grrrrr.

<-- now 4kg+ heavier in just 5 weeks due to savage aversion to the stationary trainer thingy.

When I broke my collarbone, the doc wanted me to not drive or ride for 8 weeks, but I was driving as soon as I could change gear and riding once I could brake withoug wincing.

The only thing my Mrs has gotten bolshy about was criteriums after I got knocked out in a big stack.

Just avoid bunch riding till you're all good and you should be sweet.

got the gear changing thing down pat. Turning to look over my shoulder is the only thing that bothers me (apart from clutzes patting me on the shoulder). I guess it's reasonably important to be able to see what's behind you without the fissure opening up again

I'm an expert at driving with one bung wing after three shoulder dislocations and reconstructive surgery. Including a dislocation the day before flying to the UK for a five week driving holiday. If only Avis knew I took my sling off to go in and pick up the rental, then stopped round the corner to put it back on.

Crap, the Waratahs have gone 16-14 up. 8 minutes to go.

The car rental game is a funny thing. They fret and worry about your ability to pay for the car if you damage it, but once you prove that you can then they don't really care if you do. Weird system.

Keep the scores coming. No free-to-air coverage of ruggers anymore

Well, my whiskey addled mind read the score wrong, full time and it's 16-14 to the Hurricanes.

Hurricanes player of the match - Maa Nonu, Waratahs - Lote Tuqiri

Gotta have satellite here if you want to watch rugby live (pretty much any sport)

Luckily we need satellite to get any TV as our VHF and UHF reception is near zero

Thanks for the revised and unwelcome scoreline vette.

Only problem watching Sky Sport rugby coverage is the commentary from Mr verbal diarrhoea Murray Mexted. Tonight he described one of the players giving a "hand job" and even that line made Murray stop for a second before continuing.

He's a classic

yeah, but the weight weenies on the forum have been going on and on and on and on and on about light bikes, light wheels and low peripheral rotationing mass for for acceleration, etc, etc, then we find out the elite riders are riding big clunkers!!

Real bike riders don't listen to weight ******s

Real bike riders ride bikes that are suitable for them. If that puts them in the 7kg class then so be it, maybe Michael Rassmussen can get away with that. But shove someone like Cookie on something like that and it'll probably end up in tears.