don't tell the advocy people this, they will tell you bike lanes are more dangerous :S
Is it shared lanes or full bike lanes. Personally Im against shared lanes

Full bike lanes on the road (not footpath) which really just helps motorists use their scones a bit more and gives the cyclists a wee bit more space. I won't use the shared use jobs as you just end up playing dodge the pram pushing walking groups.

MPR's are definitely over rated, over priced and fragile. The Stelvios I had on the Orbea were good but when the rear one got sidewall damage resulting in a 'bulge', I replaced them with Vitoria EVO KX as a general ride tyre and they are bullet proof. Patitcularly good in the wet. I also ride Vitorias on my GT and MS and they're all very good. I don't ride my race tyres on the road.

Fat chance on the last bit.

Welcome to 5 years ago.

Yeah, he's got a lovely accent. Which is good, because you're lucky to understand one in 4 words he says.

which Stelvios are you and Odin talking about? The fancy ones, or just the $50 ones with the heavy tread pattern. I had a cheap one that rode pretty crappy and after a few weeks, it looked like the tread was separating from the sidewall

How can they be overpriced for $35?

where at, Probikekit?

Michelin Pro Races are $98 at Cecil Walker (https://www.cecilwalker.com.au/category94_1.htm), and their prices are better than most.

98 BUCKS FOR A FARKIN TYRE!!!!!!
I can get an Open Pro rim for less than that.
The Vredestein equivalent is about $55 in shops

I now buy all my tyres from probikekit or equivalent, like the blacksac says $35 MPRs are my race tyres. However I train on wire bead 700x28C Vittoria Randonneur, no punctures in about 9 months to date.

I pay $98 for car tyre, and that's at family discount rates, but not for my bike

I need to make a conscious decision to actuallly listen to the seppos

Paisley, just outside Glasgow.

Probikekit, at $38-43 I can afford to train on Vittoria CX's!!!!

Not sure oz... they were about $50 each, but they're not heavily treaded (dual compound), and they're folding.
Am I going to notice much of a difference going from these to Conti/Vittoria/Vredestein? I'll be needing a new set soon and I've only used these and ProRaces.

I can't find the exact Stelvio on any websites (must be an old model), but the one I had was similar to this, but with a thicker, raised centre strip


In my opinion, they aren't race-worthy. Assuming yours are similar, I expect you'd notice a difference. Do you notice a difference between them and the Michelins? To try an expensive tyre, I usually just buy one and put it on the front. The only tyre I was blown away by was the Vittoria Open Corsa KS. The GP400s have had great reviews.

Just to get things off cycling again and onto the reason for the season, that being chocolate bunnies (they have something to do with Jesus apparently.) Here's my cat trying to figure out how to get into the packaging for the 0.5kg chocolate bunny I won in a lucky draw from our local bakery.

Yep, that looks like them.
I couldn't really compare them to the Michelins cos they were on a new bike that I was getting used to so I never really pushed them (and I ditched them after getting too many flats). I've actually had a Michelin on the back for the last couple of races... wouldn't have known it though for all the difference it made.
The differences in bike tyres seem more subtle than motorbike. I used to race on Michelin, but if you switched them to Dunlop, I'd know by the first corner (hehe... I'd be on my arse).

When you say not race-worthy, is it because of rolling resistance or grip? Mine haven't fallen apart like yours did.

I just put the winter race calender up for EVCC.
https://www.easternvets.com/Race_Prog...e_may_june.htm

For heavens sake, don't let it eat any chocolate! It is toxic to both dogs and cats.

they just feel like they roll slow, but it's probably not quantifiable

are you running the show down there?

Are they all short courses?

hehe, nah, their web bloke is o/s and they asked me to update stuff 'till he gets back.

None of the courses are particularly long - they did Yarra Junction today (I've got the flu so I missed it) which is 15km out/15 back which is slightly above average. Most are about 20km out and back... but your grade determines how many laps. D/E grade usually end up doing 50-60km, A,B,C do an extra lap.
Oh, and they're pretty much all hill courses

Looks like we're gonna be doing Casey Fields a couple of times a month.
The first race there - that SVCC meeting, B grade averaged 39km/h!

ah, OK, I geddit
I was looking at either some ProRace II's or Rubino Pro's next - either would be an improvement on what I'm using.

thanks

you got any course maps?

https://www.easternvets.com/Course_maps.htm

oh,oops.. D'OH!! There is was right on the website

thanks

It's OK, I'm aware of that. The cat does have an addiction to cardboard though.

Better than one of my cats .... it has an addiction to chewing through anything with a rubbery coating, hence all our power cords and a lot of the telephone cords have teeth marks. We have actually had to replace a few power cords coz the little monster has exposed the wires. If it goes near the extremely expensive speaker cable, it is going to be an ex-cat.