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Old 12-18-08 | 07:39 PM
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I kinda agree with you about some of the generic frames as they can be as good of a bike. The one you posted is ok, I hate that carbon weave though. As far as the Isaac decals, they are one of the main reasons for why I like the look of the bike. Simple and understated.
The tubes on the Isaac are MASSIVE though and this frame is raced by professional teams which at least shows it is up to the challenge of racing. I am sure an generic company can make a frame that looks similar, but will likely weigh a significant amount more. I am impressed with Pedal Force's RS2 that a friend has because the weight is low.
i ride an RS2 and like it. i like it better than that bottecchia or what that is, but i sure would trade it in for this isaac.
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Old 12-18-08 | 07:48 PM
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I kinda agree with you about some of the generic frames as they can be as good of a bike. The one you posted is ok, I hate that carbon weave though. As far as the Isaac decals, they are one of the main reasons for why I like the look of the bike. Simple and understated.
The tubes on the Isaac are MASSIVE though and this frame is raced by professional teams which at least shows it is up to the challenge of racing. I am sure an generic company can make a frame that looks similar, but will likely weigh a significant amount more. I am impressed with Pedal Force's RS2 that a friend has because the weight is low.
Our team shop is an Isaac shop. Our team bikes are Isaacs. The team has been racing them for at least 2 full seasons. They have all held up amazingly well.

There is one that is still hanging up in the back of the shop waiting to be sent back because of a hairline crack in one of the stays. Happened in a Cat 1/2 pileup. Team captain's bike. He's a 190+lb Cat1. high speed pileup and he was at the bottom of the pile.

Looks ridable, but they went over it with a fine tooth comb for a hour until they spotted a shift in the light reflection and notice the 'crack'.

All of the rest have endured a lot of wrecks, etc with no problems.

They are beautiful bikes. I hate having to stare at them during trainer classes. The head tubes are f'n HUGE! Nothing like that factory frame shown. Isaacs are "their own" bike. These are not just run of the mill frames with Isaac slapped on them. They are actually engineered/designed. They are unique....ish...

They are amazingly light and the tubes do look masive in a lot of places. Much more than any other production bike I have seen.
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Old 12-18-08 | 07:54 PM
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My friend snagged a RS2 in a group buy last year and I have to say I am utterly impressed with what he got for a $450 frameset. Really nice and in the rare white/black finish. I am sure the ride quality is different on the Isaac because of the HUGE tubes which may be good and bad thing as I don't race. We will see but I am 185 lbs so I don't think it will be an issue.


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i ride an RS2 and like it. i like it better than that bottecchia or what that is, but i sure would trade it in for this isaac.
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Old 12-18-08 | 07:59 PM
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This is good to hear. I read good reviews and Bicycling did a long term update article on the Impulse in August and they raved about it. I took this article seriously because Isaac isn't a big (if at all) advertiser so I take what the writer said seriously.

I recognize Isaac and others make and design their own frames, but the fit and finish on the Isaac at the dropouts isn't any better than on my Mongoose. Plus the decals on my Mongoose are under the clearcoat which is a nice touch. The ride will be a lot different though with the huge diameter tubes. We'll see.

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Our team shop is an Isaac shop. Our team bikes are Isaacs. The team has been racing them for at least 2 full seasons. They have all held up amazingly well.

There is one that is still hanging up in the back of the shop waiting to be sent back because of a hairline crack in one of the stays. Happened in a Cat 1/2 pileup. Team captain's bike. He's a 190+lb Cat1. high speed pileup and he was at the bottom of the pile.

Looks ridable, but they went over it with a fine tooth comb for a hour until they spotted a shift in the light reflection and notice the 'crack'.

All of the rest have endured a lot of wrecks, etc with no problems.

They are beautiful bikes. I hate having to stare at them during trainer classes. The head tubes are f'n HUGE! Nothing like that factory frame shown. Isaacs are "their own" bike. These are just run of the mill frames with Isaac slapped on them. They are actually engineered/designed. They are unique....ish...

They are amazingly light and the tubes do look masive in a lot of places. Much more than any other production bike I have seen.
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Old 12-18-08 | 09:22 PM
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I'm getting me one of these. Looks like all the other carbons out there without the Nascar'esk stickers on it.

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Old 12-18-08 | 09:48 PM
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Old 12-18-08 | 11:11 PM
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Even that Issac is riding Jesus' Pimpmobile. He's dead.
I want that all carbon "Darth Chef" version then, in his honor:

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Old 12-19-08 | 02:48 AM
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british trademark. engineered in germany. made in asia. not biblical but inspired by newton.
wait...Isaac Newton was super christian and wrote fairly extensively on biblical matters in his later life. By the transitive property, I believe you have yourself one religious frame.
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Old 12-19-08 | 03:22 AM
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wait...Isaac Newton was super christian and wrote fairly extensively on biblical matters in his later life. By the transitive property, I believe you have yourself one religious frame.
he tried to extract the scientific contents of the bible and figured the world wouldn't end before 2060 which gave the delightfully quirky millenarians a boost.
what the hell. works for me.

can i still bring it to my favorite rides?

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Originally Posted by Lazyrider
This is good to hear. I read good reviews and Bicycling did a long term update article on the Impulse in August and they raved about it. I took this article seriously because Isaac isn't a big (if at all) advertiser so I take what the writer said seriously.

I recognize Isaac and others make and design their own frames, but the fit and finish on the Isaac at the dropouts isn't any better than on my Mongoose. Plus the decals on my Mongoose are under the clearcoat which is a nice touch. The ride will be a lot different though with the huge diameter tubes. We'll see.
2 things I've never seen:

- decals on top of clearcoat on a frame
- any Bicycling review that contained any negativity.

I love the look of the Isaac frame, disappointed they don't seem to pay attention to detail that I would expect
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Old 12-19-08 | 05:00 AM
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It does seem to me that Bicycling magazine raves about 90% of the bikes they review. Which does underscore my personal 'once you get over three grand none of it sucks' theory.
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Old 12-19-08 | 10:06 AM
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Well,
As far as decals go, I assure you that many frames have some or all of their decals over clearcoat. My Trek 5500 is one example of decals over clearcoat.
As far as negative reviews, I have seen some negative reviews in magazines and online of some bikes. Like I said, Isaac doesn't advertise like the bigger companies and the article I referred to was a long term update and not some intial impression of the frame. Bottom line is whether I like it. I hated my Litespeed Vortex in 2002 which was supposed to be one of the "best" at the time.

I will be honest about the Isaac once I get it on the rode but it is a nice looking frame.


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2 things I've never seen:

- decals on top of clearcoat on a frame
- any Bicycling review that contained any negativity.

I love the look of the Isaac frame, disappointed they don't seem to pay attention to detail that I would expect
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Old 12-19-08 | 10:23 AM
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As far as decals go, I assure you that many frames have some or all of their decals over clearcoat. My Trek 5500 is one example of decals over clearcoat.
As far as negative reviews, I have seen some negative reviews in magazines and online of some bikes. Like I said, Isaac doesn't advertise like the bigger companies and the article I referred to was a long term update and not some intial impression of the frame. Bottom line is whether I like it. I hated my Litespeed Vortex in 2002 which was supposed to be one of the "best" at the time.

I will be honest about the Isaac once I get it on the rode but it is a nice looking frame.
Oh course there are negative reviews in magazines and online. Just never seen one in "Bicycling" magazine.
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looks stiff, yet compliant.
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looks stiff, yet compliant.
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Oh, there goes that wit again. Actually, it just look STIFF to me. Compliance is yet to be determined.


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Old 12-19-08 | 08:56 PM
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Well, I stand corrected on at least my Isaac frame. The decals are under the clearcoat but I can feel the letters are raised but under the clearcoat. Whatever. My Trek has decals that are over the clearcoat.


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2 things I've never seen:

- decals on top of clearcoat on a frame
- any Bicycling review that contained any negativity.

I love the look of the Isaac frame, disappointed they don't seem to pay attention to detail that I would expect
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Old 12-27-08 | 06:06 PM
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Yeah... ummmm....


OH, SNAP!!!!

Literally.

Isaac is recalling all (yes, ALL) of their bikes and frames from 2004 to 2009. Yes, they're recalling the future... sorta like Total Recall and a trip to Mars while dealing with 3 breast'd women aliens. But not. Just as snappy though.

https://road.cc/content/news/1525-isa...004-2009-bikes
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Old 12-27-08 | 06:44 PM
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Whoops OP, looks like you shoulda gone for the pedal force after all.
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Too funny. One week LR is saying Isaacs are overpriced and not meant to last long, the next he's buying one, and now another week passes and it turns out he was right the first time.
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First, I am the first to agree that my Isaac is overpriced, but I got it for 30% off retail which is why I pulled the trigger. Just because I think a Pedal Force is a better value doesn't mean I want one. I like the aesthetics of my Isaac better.

As far a Pedal Force or my Mongoose being better than a pricier frame, yes it can be. My Mongoose is finished better than my Isaac but my Isaac will have a totally different ride quality. Would I pay almost $3k for the Isaace frameset? No, but I am gonna build that bike up for no more than $3200 which makes it a good value at the end of the day.

You seem to like to try to trap me in some contradiction, but I have said all along that I feel my Monoose is a better value but that doesn't mean I won't spend on a more expensive frame. I have owned 2 Rolexes for example that were no better than my Oris which costs less than 1/2 but the Rolexes had better resale value for me. But at the right amount of discount, I would buy any frame.


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Too funny. One week LR is saying Isaacs are overpriced and not meant to last long, the next he's buying one, and now another week passes and it turns out he was right the first time.

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Well, I am way ahead of you. I emailed Isaac 2 days ago and this is not an actual recall of the bike. It is to have owners bring their bikes into dealers to have fork steerer tube inspected. Certain stems and installation set ups have caused cracks in a handful of steerers. Too many spacers under stem which is an universal issue on all lightweight carbon steerers.

Could be an issue with fork but also in installation process but they are covering their *****. They are not replacing anything other than expander or forks that show damage.

I didn't build it yet so my fork is fine but they are issuing a new expander/compression plug as a precaution. I am buying Ritchey WCS Stem and Handlebars and was thinking of a WCS fork to match which is 90+ grams lighter than the Isaac fork.

So, thanks for the "gotcha" post, you proved nothing.

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Whoops OP, looks like you shoulda gone for the pedal force after all.
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Old 12-27-08 | 11:48 PM
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Old 12-27-08 | 11:59 PM
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Well, I am way ahead of you. I emailed Isaac 2 days ago and this is not an actual recall of the bike. It is to have owners bring their bikes into dealers to have fork steerer tube inspected. Certain stems and installation set ups have caused cracks in a handful of steerers. Too many spacers under stem which is an universal issue on all lightweight carbon steerers.

Could be an issue with fork but also in installation process but they are covering their *****. They are not replacing anything other than expander or forks that show damage.

I didn't build it yet so my fork is fine but they are issuing a new expander/compression plug as a precaution. I am buying Ritchey WCS Stem and Handlebars and was thinking of a WCS fork to match which is 90+ grams lighter than the Isaac fork.

So, thanks for the "gotcha" post, you proved nothing.
Not really a gotcha post. More like a 'Well that really sucks that you got a new frame that you liked and it has to go back'.

But for you it turns out that it's probably going to be a non issue, they'll give you a new fork, or tell you what to use (probable in this case). In any event, you don't really lose out on anything, so good for you.

I wasn't trying to prove anything, but I'm not quite sure why you're being so defensive...

Glad this is going to work out for ya.
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