that looks like an old school
type scorcher sixtyfiver http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=344569

Tubulars are definitely something to experience
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/...4ce1c48a_b.jpg

Nice ride Dom...

That schorcher pic makes me really want moustache bars.

Nitto makes heat-treated stache bars for 85, Soma
has decent ones for about 35

Red CCM looks like fun, looks heavy as hell too.

Gyeswho, let your tubbie addiction begin! They are so nice to ride.

It was my intent to build up an old school club bike as back in the day, if you could not afford the off the shelf bike, you built it yourself.

yeah, they just seem like a balance of affordability and nice design. for a cheaper frame, that ones pretty nice. trouble is, they don't come as framesets anymore, so i'm told.

Hey 'dipper - The CCM hits the curb at around 25 - 26 pounds.

I have yet to weigh it.

maybe the next best thing if you can't find one
http://spicercycles.com/index.cgi?ca...cat_desc=Track

John you'll be seeing me get pitted on it tomorrow

looks good mang

yeah, that's good, too.

one thing i don't like about a lot of lower-end frames is not only are the logos ugly, they're almost impossible to remove on a lot of them. the khs is the least ugly due to big logos. i guess mercier's good, too.

ha, my sister's boyfriend got her a fetish frame for christmas. i was looking to see if the logos were under the clearcoat so she could remove them, and that dumb website address, and all the crap, and he saw me looking and said "yeah, dude, they're all painted on under the clearcoat! awesome, huh?" and i was glad i hadn't said anything yet.

I have always wondered what the appeal to riding tubulars is, from what I hear they are hard to put on and seem more temperamental then clinchers. Granted I have never ridden them so I might be oblivious to how good they truly are.

from what i hear they're not much worse than clinchers, you just have to re-learn tire changing and patching. and there's only the one layer of tire if you run over glass. i like knowing, with my clinchers, that my tube is what holds the air and that i can roll over certain things because i have a rubber layer between the ground and the air-holder.

The gray-loving side of me dies a little bit whenever I'm in sight of the bike.
I finally went aluminum, but I have yet to turn japanese. Have my SE membership card laminated when I get back.

Tubulars are great, nothing else rides as nice, since you can run a really low tire pressure. Clinchers always left me with a pinch flat, that's impossible with a tubbie.

There are about 5 ways that you can flat a clincher that you will never have to worry about with a tubbie.


/tubbie shill

which is exactly why I chose to get gatorskin sprinters to add a bit of protection

New bars, thought I'd take a pic or two.
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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../bike/bike.jpg

yeah, i don't know much about tubular options, so i didn't know if there was extra protection on some tires or something.

besides pinch flats?

Mercier Kilo TT is the exact same frame... just sticker over the decals or paint them if you don't like them. It'll be available as a frameset February. I got my KHS as a frame only from BikeCentral though.

Tubular in the front / clincher in the rear seems like the best of both worlds: that way you don't have to worry about skidding through expensive tubular tires all the time. Also, rear flats occur a lot more often than front ones (atleast for me).

Isn't riding tubulars in the rain a big no-no though?

ah, cool.

i thought khs and mercier were the same, i hadn't done a side by side, though.

really, the fork is what makes both those bikes for me, i like the crowned fork. unlike my ugly pista fork.

i know i could sticker or paint the decals, but i'm not sure i'd do a good paint job, stickers look fine for a beater (like my ppista), and tape is....i like what bikesnob nyc said about how everyone knows what's "hidden" in your wallet and under tape.

I don't know what I like more: that pretty bike or the fact that your saddles shows you really ride that thing. there are a few ppl who don't ride their saddle just to keep it white which defeats the purpose to me (of course it is possible that they clean it religiously)