Originally Posted by Cynikal (Post 7502739)

I think MIN is too. It might as well be SS if you are going to keep DT shifters on a CX bike.

MIN, I'm not meaning to be a jerk at all, just curious. I've followed the mods to this bike in the CX forum and wondered why pursue light weight at the loss of functionality.

Originally Posted by Sinn (Post 7505022)

OK. Thanks for expressing the reasons for your disgust with my comment.

In general, it seems to me that she should not have bought this frame. If she wants a bike that she can sit up on, then she should not have gotten a bike that requires one to lean into an aero position. So I disagree with your fourth point above.

I wasn't recommending that she not cut the fork. I was only recommending that she either 1) get the LBS to replace the fork and cut it so that she can ride the bike like it is meant to be ridden (i.e., in an aero position) or 2) get a frame that fits her and her riding style better.

I also agree with your points 2 and 4 above, and I see no reason to argue against them. They pose no threat to my opinions on the set up of this bike.

Originally Posted by beatifik (Post 7505048)

yeah, why would anyone set up their bike with a positive rise stem. what idiots!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...xae32/610x.jpg

Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi (Post 7505090)

There are no hard and fast rules with saddle-to-bar drop. There are plenty of road bikes out there with stems flipped up because not everybody wants or needs to be completely horizontal in the drops. There is nothing wrong with that bike.

Originally Posted by Sinn (Post 7505073)

I was arguing only that one should ride the bike like it is meant to be ridden, and that that stem rise certainly won't allow for that.

Originally Posted by B:H Pusher (Post 7504957)

i didnt get it, i just helped dude at the LBS unpackage them.

and i dont care about the "wrath" of any snob.
if you gonna have opinions go ahead and voice them
but dont be an *******

Originally Posted by iloveboston (Post 7505112)

so with that train of though, one shouldnt ride a track bike on the street and you should only ride a bmx bike on a dirt track eh? thats silly.

Originally Posted by Sinn (Post 7505134)

I don't think that's the case. But I do think that people look silly riding a bike that is designed to be ridden aggressively as if it were not.

Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi (Post 7505144)

You can ride aggressively on a beach cruiser, dude.

Originally Posted by Sinn (Post 7505164)

You can, but if you take that thing to a 50 mile long group ride, you will look like ... no, you will be a dumbass.

Originally Posted by Sinn (Post 7505134)

I don't think that's the case. But I do think that people look silly riding a bike that is designed to be ridden aggressively as if it were not.

Originally Posted by kaiju-velo (Post 7504504)

nice trek--

Originally Posted by rohonn (Post 7505196)

id post pics of my brand new windsor hour, but you all know what a white hour looks like. so here is my 1920 Janu Special Track Bike. All original minus the wheels, unfortunately the wooden rims were replaced 50 years ago...

http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/28...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/42...500x500Q85.jpg

Originally Posted by blickblocks (Post 7505242)

Oh and it's a 53cm frame, but because of the way they designed it, it's more like a 48cm. That's why the headtube is so short. They also have a 50cm which I've never seen.

The Bontrager cranks are great. I bought them because they were cheap off Bikeman. Cheaper than getting Sugino Messenger + bb, and a bit nicer too.

Originally Posted by zac (Post 7505417)

very cool!

You probably already know, but there are several outfits still making wood rims, and they are fairly reasonable too. Actually considered a set on another resto I am doing.

Originally Posted by sdc (Post 7505497)

sinn, remember when you said chains should be as tight as possible on the track? this is like that.