Communism does that to people.

That's disappointing for me to read since I just bought the kilo TT pro (should arrive tomorrow) which I bought primarily as a commuter/general use ride. I went with this bike because the components were best for the money and the geometry has the best fit for me compared to the kilo WT, Jury, or Fantom UNO (long top tubes). Now I'm thinking of getting a different frame and swapping the components over.
Thoughts anyone?

basically, any bike with track geo is gonna be a crappy commuter (depending on your commute obvs).
to me a commuter should have rack mounts, comfortable geometry, clearance for larger tires (>28cm), and possibly fenders.
you can hop on a track bike wearing a backpack and ride to work, but that doesn't qualify it as a commuter.

True. I rode a Schwinn Madison with fenders and 23c tires to work daily for the past 3 years and was very comfortable. I'm in Chicago and weather can be an issue, but climate change is making my commute easier lately. I still want a nice looking ride and being shorter, someone in the 50cm C-C range. I was considering the Wabi Classic, as it can fit a 32c tire without fenders, or 28 with, but the top tube is a little long.

Any recommendations are appreciated.

I do it every day, 10 miles a day. Fenders are nice and even a relaxed geo - but in the end, there is nothing noteworthy about riding something slow and crappy when you're trying to enjoy the ride to/from work.

(since my Devil was stolen, I've ridden a Felt for the last month and I can say, even though it is a very commuter-specific bike, it sucks for anything but DWI-style cycling. Nothing snappy, quick or fun about it. It's the equivalent of driving a Ford Focus).

that's why i put the disclaimer "depending on your commute".
5mi each way is do-able on a track bike, if you have a 20+mi commute, you might want a legit commuter.
my .02

I do commute that much and it has been made much more enjoyable to have fenders and a pannier even though I'm used to goong it with a road bike and messenger bag. My commute time is still the same because of all the traffic and lights. A light touring bike with 28mm tires is a great compromise.

It also depends on your areas weather. I commute 14 round trip around crappy Cleveland streets and the TT pro is an amazing ride. I use a messenger bag and lug around snacks and lunch to work. Even after a long 12 hr shift at the factory I have a blast going home on my kilo. I'm building up a foul weather bike because of the snow. Until then I'm slapping some Sks raceblade longs on it and riding the crap out of it

That's all good feedback. I guess either a Jury with an 80mm stem is in my future, or the hunt continues for road geometry, a "normal" top tube length, and wide tire friendly.

Scrod,

Would I have any issues running a compression plug instead of a star-nut with a steel fork(as in the one that will be part of the Mr. Pink I'm going to purchase)?

Nope. I'm using one on my BK and I've had to trouble.

Cool, thanks.

Do you think I can get bottle bosses on my 722 frame with the weird downtube shaping? I'm tired of keeping my bottle in my jersey.

I wouldn't do it. Get one of these.

my aquarack is also serving me just fine, just put some blue loctite on the screws so they dont come loose

I hated that one of the screws holding the cages on my aqua rack kept coming loose so I took it apart and put the cages on my my roadie. I'm glad you posted that's rod because I was about to ask for a more traditional alternative to the aqua rack.

Autocorrect FTW.

I can't find a thumbs up picture of you scrod.

Needs to have the text "That's Rod"

Somebody make this happen.

yes

Anyways.......I have a dilemma. I wanna get new tires for the bike. I currently have Gatorskin Hardshells in 25mm and wanted to go with a 23 buuuuut probikekit has the GP4000 S for super cheap. I have heard nothing but great things about the Gp 4000S should i get them? FWIW I weigh 200lbs

Thanx. I might pick up one of their flashlight holders as well...

You'll be ok.