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Old 04-17-04, 05:43 PM
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Mongoose XR 200 or Mongoose Iboc

Hi. I'm currently planning to buy my first mountain bike. However, my budget is only around 150 - 200 dollars. (low) I haven't biked since 4th grade, but as a 10th grader, I'm looking forward to purchase a decent bike that is durable and comfortable. It doesn't have to be fancy looking or have the best, state of the art gears. With my budget, it's like saying, getting the cheap, crap bikes, but the best ones from the price range. I've been to many other forums, message boards, and there are numberous bikers like me, that are having trouble choosing between the two. From what I've researched, (they are both Walmart, Target Bikes btw, I know these huge stores are bad, but at least you can return em if you have trouble, again this is for leisure activity, or just something small to work out and stay in shape) the Mongoose XR has a front disc break while the Mongoose Iboc does not. However, from its looks, the frame on the Iboc model looks much stronger and better constructed. So there are cons and pros of each bike. Each bike costs around 150 dollars, and many say they are better than what you think it is, but all I am asking is, which bike to buy? (meaning the best crap ^^) If you guys have suggestions or better bikes you can buy with my budget, please reply back. Thanks guys! Awesome forum and bikes yall.

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I have looked at the XR and I would avoid the front disk they use. On the one here the disk drags real bad.

If you can wait a little longer and save another $100.00 - $150.00 you could go to an LBS (local bike shop) and purchase a entry level bike that will fit you better and be of better quality. I would look at the Specialized Hardrock line. You can find entry level Hardrocks for around $300.00. It really is worth the difference in price.

Hope this helps.
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I forgot to ask what type of riding your planning on doing, Mike? The type of riding your planning on doing will also have a HUGE impact on the bike you choose. Perhaps you can give us some more info. There are much better authorities on the subject than me on the forums that will ask that question.

The bike I recommended is a good entry level, but is not build for big drops, hucks, or DH. It is more of an all around XC type of bike.
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Originally Posted by N7CZinMT
I have looked at the XR and I would avoid the front disk they use. On the one here the disk drags real bad.

If you can wait a little longer and save another $100.00 - $150.00 you could go to an LBS (local bike shop) and purchase a entry level bike that will fit you better and be of better quality. I would look at the Specialized Hardrock line. You can find entry level Hardrocks for around $300.00. It really is worth the difference in price.

Hope this helps.
I agree with N7CZinMT, save your pennies for a while longer, go mow lawns or wash cars if you need to. But save a little more money and get an entry level bike from your local bike shop. These will always be better than the bikes you'll find at department stores. I would agree about looking at the Specialized Hardrock line. These can be had for around $300.

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Wow. The specialized hardrock does look much better for a hundred dollars more. I would definitely save up some money, and invest it that bike. I plan to ride every weekend around 1-3 hour trails to Seal Beach with friends and family here at California. So closer to XC type bikes. I've also went to their official website at www.specialized.com and under the Hardrock models, there were various models that were around the $300 range, the sport and the XC. (And there is the Hardrock Comp pricing at around $500 =/) If you guys had past experiences or any suggestions, it would be great... =) And if I wer to buy the actual bike at a LBS, what can I check and ask them to make sure the bike fits me, and is assembled correctly. (I am saying this because walmart bikes only comes in a general size, and most of them are poorly assembled.) And lastly, I want to thank both of you guys, for such an awesome advice, when I get the bike, I can't wait to share my experiences with you guys. Thanks a bunch!

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If your LBS is worth anything they will correctly fit you to your bike for the type of riding you'll be doing. Stay away from department store bikes.
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Originally Posted by BlackDiamond
I agree with N7CZinMT, save your pennies for a while longer, go mow lawns or wash cars if you need to. But save a little more money and get an entry level bike from your local bike shop. These will always be better than the bikes you'll find at department stores. I would agree about looking at the Specialized Hardrock line. These can be had for around $300.

That one is $509
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Good advice so far.

X-Mart bikes are really disposable bikes and not intended to be actaully ridden off-road. If you need something to go back and forth to school then fine get one, but if you intend to actually ride one on some trails it'll break down soon.

Can you ride one on trails? Sure, but it'll be heavy and give you a ton of trouble maintenance wise.

The Specialized mentioned is a good bike, there are a lot of others as well. Go visit your LBS and test ride as many as you can. The $300 price point is highly competitive and you will see a lot of the same components on each different manufacturer's bikes.

It'll all boil down to, fit and style. Each manufacturer has their own specific geometries to what they think is best. What is best for you, is not best for me. Test ride as many different bikes as you can. Find the best 3 that are the most comfortable and then buy the one with the best paint job!

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You guys are awesome! A few days ago, I actually tried riding the Mongoose XR-200 at Walmart, and it really felt weird, as compared to my friends that I just rode today. (old bike, but he says he also bought it at a LBS around 300 dollars) I think I would go with you guys, it's rather better to spend a couple hundred more to get brand name parts and better frame, and a bike that feels good. I've asked my parents, and they said they are willing to spend around 250 - 350 range. Since my budget is higher, is there any other bikes that you (all) would recommend? I haven't check out the Specialized Hardrock yet but from the reviews that I read, it is an awesome bike for its price. (I still don't know which one to get, Sport or XC , both are around 300 dollars, but according reviews, sport is more common and higher in rating, but yeah... I'm still deciding...) If you guys have other suggestions, that would be great. Anyways, thanks guys, I'm planning to do a little more research, post some questions on forums, and hear more advices. But you guys are the greatest. Respond if you have any suggestions or any idea of a bike I should get. (Reminder: Planning to go on trails almost every other weekend, will use bike for transportation for school, stores, and so on, but not planning to do hops or tricks on it =/ Currently, I am age 15, 135lbs, 5'10" and still growing, I'm sure the LBS will help me with picking the right size, but if you guys have suggestions, go for it!) Thanks!

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Old 04-20-04, 07:12 PM
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hmmmm... all this talk of x-mart bikes being crap...

my bike is a Nakamura, RST 281 forks, Shimano Alivio deraileur and such, its FS and made by Sport Chek, i just got it.. is it a total piece of crap too? should i just give up and start saving for a whole new bike?
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Originally Posted by thedopefish
hmmmm... all this talk of x-mart bikes being crap...

my bike is a Nakamura, RST 281 forks, Shimano Alivio deraileur and such, its FS and made by Sport Chek, i just got it.. is it a total piece of crap too? should i just give up and start saving for a whole new bike?
We are not saying they are crap. We are saying they are not built to handle the pounding of typical XC trail riding. Well, at least not for long. Someone once said, "Use the right tool for the job." I think that quote sums up what we are saying.
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Originally Posted by MERTON
did mongoose used to be a good company?
Yes. Mongoose was a highly regarded bike. Particularly in the BMX arena. Then they were purchased by Pacific which turned it into what you see today.
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Old 04-20-04, 08:23 PM
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i have a mongoose xr850.not much of the original stuff is still on there though.love the frame.took a frame i like and have been building piece by piece.its a 00 not 04 model.funny thing is the brakes,front shock,and seatpost all had a sticker that said not intended for rough use or offroad use.they r all gone.save for the hardrock unless you like repairing/rebuilding(i do)
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mongoose xr200

well let me address some of these other posts,i looked at other bikes and settled on the xr200(aluminum and black) i had to make small adjustments no more than i would with a bikeshop bike i had no front brake drag problem and do some serious trail and road riding i recently bought a 2009 xr200 (burgundy and black)and after minor brake and gear adjusting i love this bike now remember wal-mart bike assembly people are not the best so if you buy from there be prepared to do some tweaks i added a bell gel seat for comfort generator light for night riding and a trunk/rack that i built from an electric scooter which i built a tail light into.i have been buying these since they first came out and i would rate this one as much improved over my last one great ride impressive looks and great bang for the buck why pay more for less mongoose always made great bikes and pacific cycle has a killer warranty and fast parts replacement and if you want a high end bike visit thier website.as far as buying specialized why spend $100 more dollars and not get daul suspension?really all four of my children threw away more expensive bike to get thier mongoose bikes (we sold the over price ones bought new cool dual suspension mongoose)with money left over and each child still had thiers in working condition as the each reached adulthood and still have them!!!
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Better components will always mean better bike and a full suspension that is cheap is worse than not having one IMO. I would feel safer on my relatively low end, but fully upgraded, Trek than a FS sub $200 Mongoose any day. I've seen parts come off of a Mongoose XR something when someonetried to take it off 3 stairs, the same ones I ride up and down everyday and my bike is 4 years old.

OP said durable and comfortable and that does not equal Wal-mart bike.
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Originally Posted by elmo35 View Post
well let me address some of these other posts,i looked at other bikes and settled on the xr200(aluminum and black) i had to make small adjustments no more than i would with a bikeshop bike i had no front brake drag problem and do some serious trail and road riding i recently bought a 2009 xr200 (burgundy and black)and after minor brake and gear adjusting i love this bike now remember wal-mart bike assembly people are not the best so if you buy from there be prepared to do some tweaks i added a bell gel seat for comfort generator light for night riding and a trunk/rack that i built from an electric scooter which i built a tail light into.i have been buying these since they first came out and i would rate this one as much improved over my last one great ride impressive looks and great bang for the buck why pay more for less mongoose always made great bikes and pacific cycle has a killer warranty and fast parts replacement and if you want a high end bike visit thier website.as far as buying specialized why spend $100 more dollars and not get daul suspension?really all four of my children threw away more expensive bike to get thier mongoose bikes (we sold the over price ones bought new cool dual suspension mongoose)with money left over and each child still had thiers in working condition as the each reached adulthood and still have them!!!
Sounds sweet. I haven't seen a generator light set up in a long time. Got any pics?
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Holy wayback machine, homie.
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I kinda liked XR200s.

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Run Away from that bike, my parents who didn't know about the difference between dept. bikes and "real" bikes got me a xr 200 2 years ago...
It was all jacked up. Components sucked, wouldnt shift, even with a LBS mech looking at it, and the brake was a joke..
thats how I came about the trek 3900.
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Holy wayback machine, homie.
Thats quite right.
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Ive been riding bicycles for 25 years, and you can have a good time on a mongoose (pacific). They are not intended for extreme use, but if you just ride dirt trails and roads, Ive know them to last for years.

They are heavy, have cheaper made componets, and you have to treat them nicer. The size may not suite your body geometry as close as a "hobby grade" bike.

Let me put it too you this way, YOU get what you pay for! That goes for about anything.

I bought my kids come cheap china made 4 wheelers. They didn't last .....
I bought them cheap R/C cars..........They didn't last like the hobby grade stuff....
Iv'e had to re-buy things over and over by not getting quality the first time.
It goes for everything....
Only quality made products will take the abuse of daily use.

You can spend twice as much buying cheap products . Look online, ebay, and craigslist.
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^ yea my rents got tired of buying me a new BMX bike every year when I was younger, After 6 months of abusive BMX riding, the X Mart bike would be half destroyed lol.
SO they broke down and spent 300 on a Nirve Siege, wich lasted me over 5-6 years before it got stolen... =(

Wish I still had it today, but ah.. well, it getting stolen got me into the MTN Bike scene.

With X mart bikes, in my opinion its luck of the draw... they'll never be like your major name brand bikes, but everynow and then you get the one that wasn't mis handled, and it could last you for a little while under light use.
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Originally Posted by Spanky-G-Master View Post
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"Good answer" Look on craigslist for a used older "real" bike. You can most likely find a decent entry level bike for 150-200. In the $100 range I see tons of older full ridged "no suspension" that are still a 100 times better than the wally world crap. And you being young, your body should be able to handle a bike with out shocks. I know of a lot of 40 somethings that are riding those as single speeds now. Been thinking about getting one my self.
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