Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19657373)

Interesting article, totally what I experience as a veterinary specialist very commonly:


Clients Behaving Badly: A Day in the Life | DrAndyRoark.com


The thing that strikes me these days (I've been in the specialized vet med business for 20 years now) is how people just don't really know how to act anymore. They are demanding, unrealistic, and really inclined to turn mean if something little or big doesn't go their way.


The question is: why? I think there's two reasons:
1. We are seeing the final effect on society of kids who grew up and were never told "no," who's self-esteem was maintained at all costs. Your dog is sick and you can't afford to treat him or you can but he can't be helped? If that makes you feel badly, rather than just feel badly and then get over it, why not make it someone else's fault? Way easier on your psyche. When the reality is: its no one's fault. Everyone did what they could but dogs are not immortal.
2. Social media. Every response is exaggerated and made with zero consideration for the person on the receiving end of your response. You can rage and flame away on social media without seeing/experiencing the effect on the other person.


Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. I see a lot of these petty elements here on BF too, which is what makes me think through these things in the context of forums, facebook, etc.

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 19658307)

Heathie, I like you, but you're smarter than this. Complaining about the next generation is older than dirt. This "me generation" crap that's being thrown around now? It started with the Boomers. I've encountered entitled teenagers, 20-somethings, 30-somethings, and all the way up to 70-somethings. Nostalgia for a time that never existed, when everyone was polite, women were demure, men practiced courtly love, and children were seen and not heard, is politically powerful but ultimately dishonest.

Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19658351)

You might well be correct, I'm often struck by how some of the raving ranting screaming types aren't that much younger than me. Sometimes they're even my age. So perhaps it's a societal thing rather than a generational thing. The biggest thing that strikes me is an inability to roll with the punches and the need to make everything someone's "fault". Interestingly not always the veterinarians fault- sometimes people want to blame themselves and I have to talk them off that ledge too. Illness happen, thats life, we all do the best we can.

But I do think there's a difference in the way people behave now vs twenty years ago when most of the crazy raging stuff simply didn't happen. Now it's fairly common stuff.

So what do you believe? Veterinarians are imagining there's a change in clients' behavior and that people have in fact always behaved like this but we just forgot.

Originally Posted by Doge (Post 19658201)

I already told you he wouldn't. He's 19. You have to be 24 to save cycling.
Brandon may.
https://rallycycling.com/news/brando...d-prix-opener/

Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 19657499)

They know better. Wind and heat piss people off, so it's best to be polite, and just deal.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19657712)

Arrived. Here is our view.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psnzxg5uog.jpg

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19657760)

Oh hell yes -

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4225/3...e60b0323_h.jpg

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 19658371)

1) I don't think much of anything is specific to veterinarians.
2) I think a lot of people have always been entitled, and different areas are worse than others for it. North Austin is lousy with it. It's even called "Steiner Syndrome" when it occurs in one of the neighborhoods I used to live in, and let me tell you, most of the people living there are your age.
3) You (and others) might also notice it more as you get more tired of it.
4) Society is changing, and this includes changes occurring in people as they age, not just as younger people emerge.
5) What's more likely: this is the first time the new generation is really ruining the country? Or is it likely as much crap now as it was a couple of millennia ago, when it was also being said?

Yes, this is a serious sore point for me. People feel free to talk about generations (and especially mine) in ways that would demand a public apology if it were said about a religion or ethnic group.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 19657851)

Huh. I thought it was Oz.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19657712)

Arrived. Here is our view.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psnzxg5uog.jpg

Originally Posted by jtaylor996 (Post 19658285)

Greetings from the land of the nearly dead!

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 19658419)

Strava gave me 135 meters where I normally get 21.

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19657069)

It's Syracuse IM 70.3 weekend and we're the official bike shop. I get to help set up and work our shop in the athlete's village today. It's currently windy and rainy.

This should be fun. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19658554)

After some morning rain, it turned into a lovely day. :)

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19657712)

Arrived. Here is our view.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psnzxg5uog.jpg

Originally Posted by Doge (Post 19657788)

Saddlebag - but no pedals. Clearly I am out of touch.

Originally Posted by f4rrest (Post 19658563)

What goes on in the village?

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19658581)

Triathletes wander around buying bling.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19657725)

Nice! Have fun (and don't spend too much time on BF)!

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19658628)

Not going to happen.

Getting ready for a 120 Km group ride I found on meetup. It's classified as "Intermediate," these classifications are quite relative so I am not sure how the pace will be. May be too slow but hey, I am on vacation so I can do relaxed pace.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19658630)

There is a bike shop right across from our apartment. It's 100% fixie oriented, so I did not relate. But the have a cool storefront.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psieuwoxdf.jpg

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 19658371)

1) I don't think much of anything is specific to veterinarians.
2) I think a lot of people have always been entitled, and different areas are worse than others for it. North Austin is lousy with it. It's even called "Steiner Syndrome" when it occurs in one of the neighborhoods I used to live in, and let me tell you, most of the people living there are your age.
3) You (and others) might also notice it more as you get more tired of it.
4) Society is changing, and this includes changes occurring in people as they age, not just as younger people emerge.
5) What's more likely: this is the first time the new generation is really ruining the country? Or is it likely as much crap now as it was a couple of millennia ago, when it was also being said?

Yes, this is a serious sore point for me. People feel free to talk about generations (and especially mine) in ways that would demand a public apology if it were said about a religion or ethnic group.

Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19658454)

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

So, pssst, tell me in confidence. I won't spill the beans. You really like that Gaudi stuff? I mean really?