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#4326
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no and it is on Universal now, they finished the 4th stage today TTT
#4327
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will the ToC be on VS? I can't believe I may have the chance to flip between 2 high profile bike races at the same time (the Giro being pre recorded of course)
#4328
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I'm calling it for Nibali.
#4329
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yep.
#4330
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I remember a year ago when everyone (on bf) thought the ToC organizers were idiots and their race was gonna fold going against the Giro. It appears we all were wrong.
#4331
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I have no idea what I'm talking about, but it's more interesting than saying Basso or Vino.
Of course I realize that knowing what one is talking about is NOT a prerequisite here on BF.
Of course I realize that knowing what one is talking about is NOT a prerequisite here on BF.
#4332
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What are you talking about?
#4333
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#4336
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#4337
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Whoosh...
#4338
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You know what sucks? When a really attractive girl asks for your number, and then you find out that she's a cocaine using lesbian.
I'm sure everyone else has been in this situation before.
I'm sure everyone else has been in this situation before.
#4339
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#4340
If you get dropped from a TTT in a grand tour, are you forced to drop out of the tour? Or do you just get a different time than the rest of the team?
#4341
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google offered this but it is fron the 05 tour de france:
The teams' times are taken on the fifth rider to finish, and all riders finishing together with their team are credited with that time. Riders who are dropped will be given their actual time, and there is a time limit of the winning team's time +25% to avoid elimination, which could be a tough call for a rider who gets dropped early; the rest of this spiel only affects the individual GC for riders who finish with their teams.
The maximum amount of time that a rider who finishes with their team can lose to the riders on the winning team is determined by the placing of their team: riders in the team that finishes second can lose no more than 20 seconds, 3rd - 30 seconds, 4th - 40 seconds and so on in ten second increments down to the 15th team, who can lose no more than 2.30, and then in five second increments down to the 21st team whose riders can lose no more than 3 minutes. If the team finishes closer to the winners than the maximum, the riders get the actual team time. Still with me? Good.
The actual team times are used for the overall team classification.
I know the 5 man rule is for everything I have seens, the percents off and whatnot may change race to race (mainly depending on the course (25% is reasonable for a 25km course but may be difficult for a 40km...just my thought)
The teams' times are taken on the fifth rider to finish, and all riders finishing together with their team are credited with that time. Riders who are dropped will be given their actual time, and there is a time limit of the winning team's time +25% to avoid elimination, which could be a tough call for a rider who gets dropped early; the rest of this spiel only affects the individual GC for riders who finish with their teams.
The maximum amount of time that a rider who finishes with their team can lose to the riders on the winning team is determined by the placing of their team: riders in the team that finishes second can lose no more than 20 seconds, 3rd - 30 seconds, 4th - 40 seconds and so on in ten second increments down to the 15th team, who can lose no more than 2.30, and then in five second increments down to the 21st team whose riders can lose no more than 3 minutes. If the team finishes closer to the winners than the maximum, the riders get the actual team time. Still with me? Good.
The actual team times are used for the overall team classification.
I know the 5 man rule is for everything I have seens, the percents off and whatnot may change race to race (mainly depending on the course (25% is reasonable for a 25km course but may be difficult for a 40km...just my thought)
#4342
Alright, that cleared it up. I wonder how many riders who get dropped still make the time cut. But I guess 25% is a pretty decent gap.
#4343
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From: South Jersey
oh crap that was specific not for the giro nvm
#4344
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for the maximum time lost part I mean. I remember people complaining about that after the fact and I believe it went away
#4346
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Post concussion syndrome + post wisdom tooth extraction pain = not such a fun week for Uncle Pcad.
Not riding this week either.
My guess is the layoff will be good for me in a number of ways.
Not riding this week either.
My guess is the layoff will be good for me in a number of ways.
#4347
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Giro helmets have now saved my noggin on three occasions, possibly my life. While any good helmet might have done the same, I'm partial to Giro for a number or reasons, some of which are now bordering on velo superstition. The other main reason is they look and fit better than other helmets I've tried. Ordered a new Giro yesterday.
#4348
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$160 plus shipping ($10) for a new Giro Ionos (magenta/black like the one it replaces) in large. Hard color combo to find, it is discontinued. I like it. Matches the team kit.
#4349
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I bought a 40 buck bell solar to match my new bike colors...someday I may pay more but not now.
#4350
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