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el twe 11-05-07 12:12 AM

I ****ing can't stand it when people have fancy front wheels with the QR on the wrong side.

Straws 11-05-07 12:58 AM

I put my QR on the non-drive side as well on my road bike. But for a front wheel, what really determines the right or wrong side?

johnprolly 11-05-07 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by el twe (Post 5576364)
I ****ing can't stand it when people have fancy front wheels with the QR on the wrong side.

Sorry to disappoint you there. I am not bothered by such trivial things. :D

btw: I am well aware that on road bikes the QR should be on the non-drive side.

paulv 11-05-07 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by piwonka (Post 5573392)

Originally Posted by sniks (Post 5573392)
the person who had it before me must have forced 700c tires on 27 inch rims cause almost impossible to get off and impossible to put another 700c on

i have some old mavic rims that are a muther****er. they're the kinda fit that breaks tire levers.

i have some mavic that are actually 27".
i hadn't noticed when i had the wheel built. the only problem i see is that the choice of tires you can put on there is quite limited, sadly and sheepishly i'll probably end up taking the wheelset apart.

biblicone 11-05-07 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by el twe (Post 5576364)
I ****ing can't stand it when people have fancy front wheels with the QR on the wrong side.

Since when does it matter?

Gary Fountain 11-05-07 09:46 AM

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00164-1.jpg

My 1984 Hillman.

sniks 11-05-07 09:52 AM

Beautiful!

is there a place were more photo can be found?

JackWGroves 11-05-07 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Gary Fountain (Post 5577656)

Perfection.

Serendipper 11-05-07 09:54 AM

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...t_cow_09_z.jpg

sohi 11-05-07 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by el twe (Post 5576364)
I ****ing can't stand it when people have fancy front wheels with the QR on the wrong side.

you life must be really hard, hope you got some talent to make up for it.

Cynikal 11-05-07 11:02 AM

Seriously? With all the pandering in here about aesthetics you get your kickers in a bunch when someone makes a comment about the QR on the wrong side.

sohi 11-05-07 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Cynikal (Post 5578128)
Seriously? With all the pandering in here about aesthetics you get your kickers in a bunch when someone makes a comment about the QR on the wrong side.

thats exactly what i mean. MY overdeveloped sensitivity makes my life hard :-)

onetwentyeight 11-05-07 11:27 AM

i hate qr's on the wrong side, too. i also hate when tire logos aren't aligned with the valve, and when bars and saddles are slightly askew. but i'm also anal, and i also work on bikes all day. comes with the territory, i suppose. for me those elements aren't about aesthetics, but rather just sloppiness.

TehK 11-05-07 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight (Post 5578291)
i hate qr's on the wrong side, too. i also hate when tire logos aren't aligned with the valve, and when bars and saddles are slightly askew. but i'm also anal, and i also work on bikes all day. comes with the territory, i suppose. for me those elements aren't about aesthetics, but rather just sloppiness.

Agreed, but there is a fine line between being sloppy, and just careless.

deathhare 11-05-07 11:36 AM

I think theyre the same thing in this case.

TehK 11-05-07 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by deathhare (Post 5578357)
I think theyre the same thing in this case.

True.

lhcommons 11-05-07 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight (Post 5578291)
i hate qr's on the wrong side, too. i also hate when tire logos aren't aligned with the valve, and when bars and saddles are slightly askew. but i'm also anal, and i also work on bikes all day. comes with the territory, i suppose. for me those elements aren't about aesthetics, but rather just sloppiness.

I totally get that if you do this for a living, spending all day on it, then things like coordinating the tire logos and the valve stem is worth some attention... but for most of us that work on our bikes in our spare time (even though some of us spend a LOT of spare time on it), that stuff just doesn't mean the same thing. If I spend even a second worrying about logos and valve stems, its a second I'm not spending on something else more important. I love my bike; its fun, it gets me to the train station every day (and home again!), and it keeps me young.
I'm not saying I don't care about aesthetics at all. But I can think of lots of explanations besides "sloppiness" for why someone doesn't worry about what side of the bike their front qr is on. Like maybe they want to go for a ride with their kids. Or cook dinner. Or look at bike catalogs.

Just my $0.02.

piwonka 11-05-07 11:56 AM

i guess some people just don't naturally think about the details. kinda funny how someone will spend who knows how much time searching for that vintage and NOS turbo or concor or whatever so that their saddle matches their deep V's and their tires and their grips or whatever but when they go to put on a tire or their wheel they don't think "hmm, well i'm putting this tire on, i guess i might as well center the logo with the valve stem." or pay attention to the fact that the QR skewer is more proper on the ND side. how long does it take to flip a front wheel around, less than a minute...less than 20 seconds with a QR.

and some people don't really care...and the people that do care notice those little details...oh well.

dirtyphotons 11-05-07 12:03 PM

lining the label up with the valve has a practical reason. if you get a flat you find the hole in the tube and then you know where on the tire to look for debris. if you get multiple flats you can tell if they were in the same place or not.

johnprolly 11-05-07 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by deathhare (Post 5578357)
I think theyre the same thing in this case.

Sloppy and careless? Like your lack of punctuation? Your sentence is totally throwing me off because I'm so anal. In fact, your sentence may wreck into a curb or something because it's off-balanced.

TNCLR 11-05-07 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight (Post 5578291)
i hate qr's on the wrong side, too. i also hate when tire logos aren't aligned with the valve, and when bars and saddles are slightly askew. but i'm also anal, and i also work on bikes all day. comes with the territory, i suppose. for me those elements aren't about aesthetics, but rather just sloppiness.

I agree with this sentiment 100%. Taking the time to attend to the details is just as important as anything else involved in correctly maintaing your bicycle.

johnprolly 11-05-07 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by piwonka (Post 5578488)
or pay attention to the fact that the QR skewer is more proper on the ND side. how long does it take to flip a front wheel around, less than a minute...less than 20 seconds with a QR.

HAHA. Yeah, flip a HED around, so the spokes are facing the wrong direction. Makes perfect sense. Who cares about aesthetic biases from anal internet kids when you could be running your aero wheel the wrong way? Sheesh!! :eek:

BTW, GR Skewers have no practical reasons for being on EITHER side of a front wheel. Especially when the back is bolted on with track nuts. The skewer was on that side when I got it and since it doesn't really matter what side it's on, I left it. As for the tire, If you're careful enough to check for glass, wire or rips, it doesn't really matter where you align the label.

Just my $0.02

johnprolly 11-05-07 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by dirtyphotons (Post 5578527)
lining the label up with the valve has a practical reason. if you get a flat you find the hole in the tube and then you know where on the tire to look for debris. if you get multiple flats you can tell if they were in the same place or not.

this is also a valid point.

edit: Also notice my tire label and valves are aligned ;)

bonechilling 11-05-07 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by johnprolly (Post 5578884)
HAHA. Yeah, flip a HED around, so the spokes are facing the wrong direction. Makes perfect sense. Who cares about aesthetic biases from anal internet kids when you could be running your aero wheel the wrong way? Sheesh!! :eek:

Actually, you DO have the wheel on backwards. Unless for some reason it's different on 650c tri-spokes, the stem side should be on the side of the drive-train.

dirtyphotons 11-05-07 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by johnprolly (Post 5578884)
If you're careful enough to check for glass, wire or rips, it doesn't really matter where you align the label.

very true. it's a detail, much less important than tightening your lock ring and a bit more important than the order of colors on your belgian flag top tube protector :)

oh yeah, BIKES!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1425/...42e4cf32cc.jpg


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