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Old 02-16-23, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Could be useful when you are out of the cockpit. Yachting is expensive.
Oh, an autopilot remote is a great thing and can keep you warm and dry under the dodger while all hell breaks loose back at the wheel or allow you to un-**** something on the bow in traffic. But why not let me do it with my phone?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I think you need to be a certain age for the C... it just looks old to me, not classic.
The point of a 7 is not that it's classic. It's that it's light, handles really well, and is fun. It's got the least amount of extraneous stuff beyond that. It would absolutely suck as a daily driver literally anywhere. And at the low end of the Caterham range, it's not even remotely fast. OTOH, where can you drive a C8 Corvette Z06 at more than maybe 50% or less of its capability?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Even the comparatively boring engine in my GX sounds so much nicer than the V6 in the 4Runner.
My Dodge sounds nice. I was thinking about getting a Cat Back exhaust system to enhance the sound, but then I read something that dissuaded me - mostly, you can't hear it in the car. That made it seem like a lot of money to waste on everyone else.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The point of a 7 is not that it's classic. It's that it's light, handles really well, and is fun. It's got the least amount of extraneous stuff beyond that. It would absolutely suck as a daily driver literally anywhere. And at the low end of the Caterham range, it's not even remotely fast. OTOH, where can you drive a C8 Corvette Z06 at more than maybe 50% or less of its capability?
It's much more fun going fast in a slow car than slow in a fast car.

Caterhams and Atoms are purely weekend tows that are a blast at the track or on the Tail of the Dragon.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
My Dodge sounds nice. I was thinking about getting a Cat Back exhaust system to enhance the sound, but then I read something that dissuaded me - mostly, you can't hear it in the car. that made it seem like a lot of money to waste on everyone else.
It's not worth it to rattle your neighbor's coffee cups at 7:00 in the morning?
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
It's much more fun going fast in a slow car than slow in a fast car.

Caterhams and Atoms are purely weekend tows that are a blast at the track or on the Tail of the Dragon.
The thing about the lesser Caterhams, or old MGs and such, is that they don't need a track. The Atom, IIRC, is a lot more powerful, as are the higher priced Caterhams, so they'd definitely be track cars, but if you lived in an area with twisty back roads, the low-end Caterham would be a blast.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
It's not worth it to rattle your neighbor's coffee cups at 7:00 in the morning?
More like 8:30...
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The point of a 7 is not that it's classic. It's that it's light, handles really well, and is fun. It's got the least amount of extraneous stuff beyond that. It would absolutely suck as a daily driver literally anywhere. And at the low end of the Caterham range, it's not even remotely fast. OTOH, where can you drive a C8 Corvette Z06 at more than maybe 50% or less of its capability?
I've driven the supercharged C7 Vette and I wondered why anyone would want one. It's just asking for trouble.

The C6 with automatic and naturally aspirated engine is a lot more comfortable as a daily driver and has more room for larger drivers.
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Originally Posted by big john
I've driven the supercharged C7 Vette and I wondered why anyone would want one. It's just asking for trouble.

The C6 with automatic and naturally aspirated engine is a lot more comfortable as a daily driver and has more room for larger drivers.
That's what I like about the Dodge. It's very comfortable, it rides nice, it is easy to drive in traffic and other situations where you want it to be civilized, but it also has a lot of power if I want it. And I paid under $30K for it. I don't know that I'd appreciate a $100K car $70K more.
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anyone know why some ride activities show up on the club feed (they’re def public!) but not on the leaderboard?!?

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Originally Posted by big john
I've driven the supercharged C7 Vette and I wondered why anyone would want one. It's just asking for trouble.

The C6 with automatic and naturally aspirated engine is a lot more comfortable as a daily driver and has more room for larger drivers.
My dad's daily driver. He's put over 100k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by mschwett
anyone know why some ride activities show up on the club feed (they’re def public!) but not on the leaderboard?!?
I personally think that fake miles should not show up on the leaderboard, but apparently they do. IDK how the system decides.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
My dad's daily driver. He's put over 100k miles on it.
A friend had a C5 and his bike fit in the hatch with the front wheel off.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The thing about the lesser Caterhams, or old MGs and such, is that they don't need a track. The Atom, IIRC, is a lot more powerful, as are the higher priced Caterhams, so they'd definitely be track cars, but if you lived in an area with twisty back roads, the low-end Caterham would be a blast.
True. One of the things I liked about my Cayman was that it was powerful enough at about 350hp to have fun on local country roads, but not so powerful that it was useless. My last two cars had more than 500hp, and they were so powerful that you could not really drive them in a fun way without getting yourself in a heap of trouble.

I still have a TR6 dream lingering in my brain for that very reason.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
True. One of the things I liked about my Cayman was that it was powerful enough at about 350hp to have fun on local country roads, but not so powerful that it was useless. My last two cars had more than 500hp, and they were so powerful that you could not really drive them in a fun way without getting yourself in a heap of trouble.

I still have a TR6 dream lingering in my brain for that very reason.
The way a TR6 sounds and feels is amazing.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Minivan #1 went for over $30k in 2001. It was pretty fancy though. Auto sliding doors, it beeped at you if you were about to back in to something, it told you gas mileage, range, direction, temp, etc. I reckon $300 for it in 2016 was a pretty good deal.

Minivan #2 is bare bones, have to open those sliding doors with my bare hands! But it does have fog lamps (I had moved them along with the bumper cover over to Minivan #1 while Minivan #1 was the main Minivan.)
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Americans want SUVs. Sad.
While a hot Audi wagon would be lovely, I've been driving Ford Explorers since 2006. For my needs as a dad hauling kids and their gear, the Explorer has been an excellent choice for my needs. That said, with a change in lifestyle due to grown kids, my next vehicle will probably be different.
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Originally Posted by big john
A friend had a C5 and his bike fit in the hatch with the front wheel off.
Yup. That's how Dad transports his bike. These days, he just leaves his bike in the car between rides.
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Originally Posted by big john
The way a TR6 sounds and feels is amazing.
One of my coworkers bought a TR6 that had been sitting in a neighbor's driveway for years. Still in good working condition, unrestored, etc, but not being driven.

That was a year ago. I asked him about it the other day. He said he's thinking of selling it, because it's been sitting in his driveway, not being driven...
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I drive less than 5K miles per year since retiring, most of my driving is to ride starts. The Trailblazer hauls bikes inside and can carry anything I want to carry but gas mileage isn't great. Had it for 9 years and paid $2750 for it. I don't know what I would replace it with. I thought about buying an old station wagon and fixing it the way I want it. Or maybe a compact SUV. Maybe another pick up, I've had 5 pick ups.
I saw a 2 door 4WD S10 Blazer with a bad engine for sale for $950. I could do something like that. Probably won't, though.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
While a hot Audi wagon would be lovely, I've been driving Ford Explorers since 2006. For my needs as a dad hauling kids and their gear, the Explorer has been an excellent choice for my needs. That said, with a change in lifestyle due to grown kids, my next vehicle will probably be different.
I used to think if I had it to do all over again, I might buy either a Chrysler 300 or a Dodge Charger. They're essentially the same as the Challenger, but with 4 doors. Although you CAN fit 4 largish adults (TOB is 6', TYB is 6'2") in the Challenger, it's not that easy to get into the back.

But the last couple years, I mostly have the back seats down, because I carry a bike way more often than I carry more than one passenger.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
True. One of the things I liked about my Cayman was that it was powerful enough at about 350hp to have fun on local country roads, but not so powerful that it was useless. My last two cars had more than 500hp, and they were so powerful that you could not really drive them in a fun way without getting yourself in a heap of trouble.

I still have a TR6 dream lingering in my brain for that very reason.
I had a lot of fun in a TR6, BITD.
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While a hot Audi wagon would be lovely, I've been driving Ford Explorers since 2006. For my needs as a dad hauling kids and their gear, the Explorer has been an excellent choice for my needs. That said, with a change in lifestyle due to grown kids, my next vehicle will probably be different.
Ford has always made great station wagons.
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I drive less than 5K miles per year since retiring, most of my driving is to ride starts. The Trailblazer hauls bikes inside and can carry anything I want to carry but gas mileage isn't great. Had it for 9 years and paid $2750 for it. I don't know what I would replace it with. I thought about buying an old station wagon and fixing it the way I want it.
Saw this beauty the other day. Runs great. I dunno if bike and surfboard are included



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Originally Posted by genejockey
I used to think if I had it to do all over again, I might buy either a Chrysler 300 or a Dodge Charger. They're essentially the same as the Challenger, but with 4 doors. Although you CAN fit 4 largish adults (TOB is 6', TYB is 6'2") in the Challenger, it's not that easy to get into the back.

But the last couple years, I mostly have the back seats down, because I carry a bike way more often than I carry more than one passenger.
I had a Challenger rental car last weekend. My kid's '07 GTI has more rear seat leg room. I've been toying with the idea of stripping out the 2nd and 3rd row seats from my Explorer and optimizing it for hauling bikes, groceries, and (occasionally) dogs. It probably won't happen, but it's an idea.
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