Which makes me wonder if Nev has bought those Rapha 'Wacko Jacko Special' glove yet.

the golf glove? Nah

You mean it's 80 Pounds for just one? Heh heh.

Hey Ozman, you posted a while back askin what might be in Powerade/Gatorade that was making you feel sooooo good? There's not much in it. Go here for a comparison of various SDs https://www.infosync.com.au/superspri...28gatorade.htm

I've been dickin around with magnesium this week (don't ask) and the stuff is like a miracle cure for "the burn". Don't know why, but coupled with good hydration and carb reload it makes the memories of yesterdays heavy workload disappear overnight. Has one bad side effect though: dilutes the urge to drink beer

Adam's Ale Sport ? What ??? A beer-based sports drink? Where can you get this stuff?

Eh? No such thing unless you're a poof.

OMFG: I've been outed on the AT! And to think that all this time I must've been in denial. Who would've known? Thanks for bringing me to my senses sacman, I could've gone through life missing a world of opportunity. I'm off to find/start the Gay Pride thread.

See you at the Alpine Classic

For any other wiedos out there who are fascinated by cells and intra cellular chemistry:

https://www.acu-cell.com/ is a decent little site explaining in (mostly) plain english how different minerals and vitamins work at the cellular level, and how they interact. Also has a hell list of diet and suppliment related links at the bottom of the home page.

jock - where do you get all this spare time to read that stuff ?

and how come your doin' the newsletter? Shaw falling off the job?

its called work. You know the drill. Login, read email, make coffee, talk about footy/cricket/motorsport, put feet up, pick topic of interest, start gooooooogle....

shaw claims to be doing work at work. he needs edumacatin

Jeez, doesn't Climbo have a job?

ok sorry to put ask a cycling tihng here but here goes :

just picke dup a set of new ksyrium elites for 500 bucks, now need the obvious cassette and rubber to go with them. is thre a huge difference besides cost in going for 105 vs ultegra? also, given that they say you should change chain and cassette togeather, is this going to play havoc with my training wheelset?

lastly, can any recomend a tyre to use? i dont want a full race tyre as the wheels will be used on group rides as well as racing, but somthing that rolls reasnobly well and remains tacky?

tks

not a decent one apparently!

Hey climbo, readin it is only half the fun. Have you tried making sense of just one of the listed vitamins or minerals.

Take one scenario for magnesium for example. Not enough of it gives you cramps and muscle spasms. So you decide to add some as a suppliment without consulting a dietician or medico. What happens if you take too much? cramps and muscle spasms! Who'd wanna be in the medical field with that level of certainty? Better of in the insurance industry

More importantly you'll see that various vitamins and minerals work well together, whilst other combinations are not so good. Take magnesium versus sodium and potassium, the common mineral salts that need replacement after exertion. They don't like each other much at the whacky cellular level.

Go with the Ultegra cluster and make sure you get a decent chain to go with it (HG93 is it? I can never remember). They last heaps longer than the 105 gear.

Put new cluster on you training wheel at the same time. Change the chain every 2500-3000km if you are going to be swapping between training and racing wheels. Change the training cluster every three or four chain changes***, or immediately if you start to get slip.

[note] this will vary depending on the load and abuse that the drivetrain is subjected to. In extreme conditions (eg. lots of training in the rain) you might need to change the cluster on the second chain change.

is it worth investing in a chain wear indicator? ok ill go the ultegra one, nothing quite like spending money

Ozman posted a useful chain-wear measurement tip using just a steel rule a while back.

i dont spose anyone can provide linkage? if it occurs outside this thread then to me it potentialy never existed....

links are an inch apart, you can judge the wear based on measuring any link on your chain. Replacement depends on who/what you are, I replace a chain every 2 years or so.

I had a quick trawl and couldn't find it. Maybe Aussie can enlighten us when he falls out of bed

"Drinks with too much carbohydrate – 8 per cent or above – delay stomach emptying and slow intestinal fluid absorption, increasing the risk of dehydration and gastrointestinal upset during exercise."

Tell me, am I the only one that eats 'sports bars' of 60% carbohydrates while drinking 'sports drinks' of 6% carbohydrate, obviously according to this 'increasing the risk of dehydration and gastro-intestinal upset' due to ingesting too many carbos?

Seems there's a bit of a 'logic vacuum' in that article, not to mention the whole "Gatorade recently increased the level of electrolytes by 20 per cent to enhance rehydration and help maintain the right level of electrolytes in blood....Gatorade does not add ingredients that are unproven to aid hydration and performance to its formulation. Why? Good science doesn’t support it." rhetoric.

You see that time and time again on these forums. If you're digestive tract can take sports bars/gels with sport drink, go right ahead although it seems like you're wasting money somewhere. My take on it is to use sport drink in between sport bar meals which are swilled down with plain old water.

thanks

Punished myself last night down Adcock track for my poor showing on wednesday.
Will return stronger to avenge my losses!

At the risk of being banned from yet another useless forum site, let me just say that I reckon the levels of sucrose/glucose/fructose in sport drinks have more to do with appealing to the western palate (=$$$$) than any scientific reckoning (=minor interest). 95% of all sport drink sold is consumed by people who don't really need the benefit of any scientific studies on elite athletes drinking stuff at anaerobic threshold. Most athletes with half a brain mix their own because the off the shelf stuff is too sickly sweet when you're working hard

I shoulda hung around to watch the fun. How did Gary go?