Good decision re: the bands. You get awesome resistance and a huge pump from them. Just watch out for the area where you put your feet, I had one band rip rip a small hole right there and could have been disastrous if I hadn't caught it in time. Emailed beachbody and they ended up apologizing and sending me a whole brand new set plus handles for the trouble at no cost!

I use the magenta, red, and green weight bands but it would be nice to have a heavier one when doing arms. I also do have 2 sets of weights (5 lb & 10lb) bought at Target. Will prob get another 15 or 20. Weights are great for some of the shoulder exercises and for adding some extra weight during legs and back.

Where did you see Dreya?! I'd love to see her in person or the chick from the legs dvd who stands in the back.

Couldn't you just have a bigger loop in the band to increase the resistance? I don't use the bands so I really don't know. I have them though, so may give them a shot.

Out of curiosity for those of you who do the program how does your workout schedule look for the week while including cycling? Are you doing 2 workouts a day for the cycling days? I'm trying to determine what a good schedule would be that allows me to do most of the workouts without having to put in 2+ hours a day and allowing at least a day of rest after working each muscle group... Ideas?

Keeping in mind that I don't "train" for any goals on my bike, I just ride, often commuting to work or around town --

I didn't see a problem doing both. Yeah, my biking was harder after doing plyo or one of the legs workouts, but that's just how it goes. If I need to save up and recover strength for a particular reason, I just do less.

Like Barrack I don't really train for a "goal" in cycling, I just ride for the sport and figure I'll improve along the way. I do however ride hard when I get the chance. My week consists of P90x Mon, ride Tues, P90x Wednes (or Thurs depending), ride Thurs, P90x Fri, ride on Sat, and recover on Sun. I've been doing some co-ed dodgeball and kickball to mix things up with my girl, so Wednes and Thurs sometimes change depending on that. I've never really tried to do P90x and a ride all in the same day mostly due to time, just don't have it. Compared to when I rode before starting P90x I've definitely seen huge gains in my riding and climbing abilities. The plyo dvd and the legs and back dvd seriously put a hurtin on you.

You're right I could and do when the exercise permits and sometimes you can only make the loop so small before you lose any sort of "stretchiness". I'd definitely recommend trying them, especially if you already have them. If anything it would definitely switch things up.

Just fyi --

Don't buy resistance bands that have a braided covering. I have a Nike set that's covered in braided nylon. They'll stretch to a certain point, then the braid "locks" and you can't stretch them any further. This makes using a loop completely ineffective since you'll probably run out of travel before you've finished the exercise's range of motion (such as only managing curls instead of an overhead press).

Here's the one I got. I don't even know where it is now; I might've thrown it away.
https://www.ukshop.starzshop.com/inde...ddb=7&pid=5336
https://www.golflink.com/golf-equipme....aspx?p=479242

I use and have used p90x. I used to strictly follow the program this was back when i first go into riding, but i did notice feeling stronger out on the road.

What I do now is the strength training and core workouts and on the other days I ride my bike. I was thinking about adding the yoga back in aswell, maybe on my light ride days

the ab ripper X workout is the best core/ab workout I've ever done. It a real killer.

For what it's worth, I started P90X a couple of months ago. I've been doing the workouts off and on (I have a vacation next week, and when we get back my wife and I are both starting the program the way it is intended). Just from my doing the workouts a few times a week, I've made huge gains in my fitness level and lost some waistline.

However, the real benefit was that it started making me feel like I could be fit. And I started changing other things in my life. I quit smoking (have been "mostly" quit for some time now, but cheating way too much), have started eating better, and yes, it even got me back on a bike. I didn't buy the DVDs - got them from a friend who moved in with his GF and suddenly had 2 sets - but I am considering buying them just as thanks.

I don't think it was anything special about P90X that got me in the fitness mindset - I'm sure others out there found the same inspiration from working with a trainer, or support from a loved one, or a love of running/cycling/swimming, whatever - but Tony's program is great for me, and I'm thankful for it. I'm off to PR on Wednesday for a few days of drinking and eating WAY too much, then when I get back I hope to spend the winter using P90X and my new bike to get in great shape for the upcoming cycling season.

They are great workouts - intense, but doable, and it's much better than the half-assed fumbling attempts at the gym that passed as my "workouts"

Just my $0.02

lootcorp - I agree with you there all the way. I started it never intending to do the diet or really even the program the way it was designed. I simply needed something I could do in my own home on my own time. I hate gyms, and the bike was my first love and nothing was going to change that. I just do random workouts. Mix things up, with trainer time or as much riding as I can still fit in. I'm sure if I were to follow the program I'd see better results, but I am extremely happy with my improvement so far.

I'll never make it through the diet though. I just don't have the will power. I can regulate what I eat pretty well, but when I want to splurge, I'll do it. That usually means burgers or pizza rather than something sweet and nasty anyway.

What's funny about the gym now is that unless it's nearly empty, I feel like everyone there is getting in my way. I want to change movements and exercises pretty quickly, and if someone's been sitting on a bench for ten minutes watching the floor grow, I'm stuck. I even took my resistance bands in case the dumbbell racks were being used.

The scheduler script page at fatdad.org is back up:
https://www.fatdad.org/p90xscript/

I did two 90 day sessions last winter and was in the best shape ever last spring. I slacked off during the cycling season I did the upper body and yoga workouts and ended the season with 3600 miles, 14 centuries, 1 double century. I started the program again in November and am in week 11 right now (2nd year). This program gets me in the best shape I have ever been. I supplement with running twice a week and riding on trainer when I can force myself to.

I don't have anything against P90X; in fact, it seems pretty solid for what it claims to do and definitely 'hard-core'.

But are there any regular racing cyclists here that use P90X? I have a hard enough time just cycling (and running) rather than jump into a P90X cycle.

I used to lift a lot of weights, but I'm moving away from that as I get older.

I do several of the DVDs as do some friends of mine. I do, or have done, with regularity

core
abs
plyo
yoga

I have tried the kempo as well, but it seemed pretty silly.

I have and know people as well that have started with the P90. It's quite a bit cheaper and easier, kind of like a prep course for P90X.

I don't care what anyone says, that is not YOGA that is torture!

My wife is doing it for the second time. She's pretty hardcore and has achieved nice results. The only workout I've done is ab ripper X and it's definite torture. I'm going to try the plyo and yoga as well. I can't see myself following through on the whole workout. When I was 25 and wanted the chicks to be drawn to my guns, maybe, but not now. Now, I'm working on a look that gives me an upper body made of toothpicks sitting atop two california redwoods.

I have been considering the P90X workout for times when I can't make it into the gym. Now I am considering picking up a few kettlebells instead. Pullups, push ups, ab work and kettlebells would give some great results.

Just like Tony says partway through the Legs & Back session (it was on my schedule last week; this was during alternating side lunges) --

"It doesn't have to be pretty, you might stumble a little bit, that's perfectly fine, don't worry about that. Just do your best and forget the rest."

Or another video where he goes, "You see him? He couldn't do what he just did on day 1, day 5, day 10, or even day 20."

The way I see it, if you think it's too intense -- like you see them curling with 40 lbs and that's just too damn heavy -- just pick another weight. Don't lunge so deep, don't bother trying to get fifty pushups if you can only manage ten. Do what you can as long as you're working hard to get it.

I'm starting it again after too many weeks off, and I need it. It's a good program, even the warmups and stretches at the beginning of each session. I'll probably be doing a P90X-Insanity hybrid, too, either this time through or the next. My wife's walking DVDs (low-impact aerobics) aren't quite enough for me at this point.

(P90X-Insanity hybrid schedule on PDF: https://pledgetostayfit.com/documents...t_schedule.pdf )

Why even PAY to get ripped? I got shredded for FREE....via, high-intensity intervals on the road and mountain bike, with caloric zig-zag cycling. That's ALL you need...and I'm 46!

I thought you meant turning the bike rapidly side-to-side...

I'm a P90X grad and continue to do it to this day. It's apart of my lifestyle now and an addition to my bike training and conditioning. Once your on it it's had not to stop as every exercise is different. I modify the nutrition plan to fit the means of my budget. I definitely feel the differences in my riding from when I didn't do P90X at all. If your not on the program you should try it if interested. Each work out is and hour to 1 1/2 hour. You won't be disappointed.

I started using it regularly in late 2009, a few months before this thread started. It's been two years and I still go to it for most of my off-bike exercise.

I was up to 235 back then, and I weighed 188 this morning. I can do more pullups than I've ever done before, I can run faster for longer, and when I go to the beach now, I'm more embarrassed about my extreme farmer's tan than a gut and skinny arms. I can keep up reasonably well with guys half my age in a casual soccer game. People who haven't seen me in a year go, "Dude, you're skinny as s***!" I'm still a few pounds away from what I weighed at the end of boot camp eleven years ago, but I'm stronger and faster than I was then, too.

[shill] P90X2 is coming soon. [/shill ]

Day one of P90X for me.